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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby gamwam » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:54 pm

wow thanks boggy,. unfortunately I live right in the centre of the city and I don't drive,. so even the closest area you pointed out is to far for me to reach and not served by public transport,. however I am well aware of the many bottomless peat bogs in the peak district and I have visited them for sinks a few times back when I had a local sinking friend that had access to a car,. its definatly a gold mine for bottomless bogs up there - and I have posted some videos of a few of my sinks on my socialparody group, I guess I was hoping to find somewhere I could reach myself under my own steam without having to rely on anyone else but I suppose I should remember that I'm surrounded on all sides by city and don't have acess to a car, so have to rely on public transport or my bycicle to get me around - some of the spots that you have pointed out look very promising! so if I can find a way to access them in the future I definatly will

many thanks for casting your eye over my area, I really appreciate the research you have done :)

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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby Boggy Man » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:02 am

gamwam wrote:wow thanks boggy,. unfortunately I live right in the centre of the city and I don't drive,. so even the closest area you pointed out is to far for me to reach and not served by public transport,. however I am well aware of the many bottomless peat bogs in the peak district and I have visited them for sinks a few times back when I had a local sinking friend that had access to a car,. its definatly a gold mine for bottomless bogs up there - and I have posted some videos of a few of my sinks on my socialparody group, I guess I was hoping to find somewhere I could reach myself under my own steam without having to rely on anyone else but I suppose I should remember that I'm surrounded on all sides by city and don't have acess to a car, so have to rely on public transport or my bycicle to get me around - some of the spots that you have pointed out look very promising! so if I can find a way to access them in the future I definatly will

many thanks for casting your eye over my area, I really appreciate the research you have done :)


I enjoyed doing the online exploration, and am sorry about your transportation problems. I hope that in the future, you will find someone who will be able to take you to those places, and enjoy the pleasures of being engulfed by sucking mire again.
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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby Boggy Man » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:04 am

In the "Safety measures when sinking alone?" thread,
Jon Smith wrote:I have searched my area before, I'm wondering if there is something that I might have missed around Marcola, Oregon.


I still had some time left to do some more online exploring, and so, I searched around your region. The lack of plateaus made it a bit more challenging, since sloped regions don't hold water. One thing that helped was when I switched to the map view, which showed ponds and lakes, before switching back to earth view. Other times, there were ponds that weren't on the map view. I initially found a bunch of ponds and potential meadows on Google Maps, but when viewed on Google Earth, what looked like meadows turned out to be hillsides with grass or low vegetation, forcing me to go through the links and eliminate the ones that were on a slope. Here are my findings:

There are some areas around Warner Lake, although some are in the open:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2466402,-122.9583823,390m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2464131,-122.9522306,209m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2499371,-122.9474522,202m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2495444,-122.9594194,200m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2534976,-122.9651487,206m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2589835,-122.9648037,580m/data=!3m1!1e3

Open areas around the ponds may be grassy hillsides, but some flatter ones may be marshy:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2612515,-122.9582139,999m/data=!3m1!1e3

Along White Creek, it looks like there could be some marshy areas:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.252022,-122.9664704,206m/data=!3m1!1e3

Here are some more marshy looking areas, and the dark area dappled with green are ponds with vegetation in them:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2635454,-122.9648341,581m/data=!3m1!1e3

Another small pond:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2594735,-122.9746893,205m/data=!3m1!1e3

Moving on to other regions, here are some more clearings that look like they might have wet spots, but then, they might be sloped:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2398482,-122.5818772,206m/data=!3m1!1e3 (a brown spot looks like water)
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2144655,-122.5985938,207m/data=!3m1!1e3 (gray area looks interesting)

More ponds:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.18606,-122.6328118,206m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.3358249,-122.710692,620m/data=!3m1!1e3

Check out this creek with marshy areas and ponds (notice the brown patch of water in the upper part):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.1518721,-122.8368945,191m/data=!3m1!1e3

More marshy clearings (including a tiny one lower left) and pond(s):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2953557,-122.7560108,490m/data=!3m1!1e3

When you explore the areas, it is a basically a process of elimination, with places that look like they have potential ending up being shallow or solid, while others might yield what you are looking for. Some areas that look like they could be marshy, might only be clearings with low vegetation and grass and on a hillside, while others might be marshy. I wish you the best of luck in exploring this season! :)
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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby Jon Smith » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:18 pm

Thanks. :) I haven't been in that area, but I can check them all out, unless private property.

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Postby gamwam » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:23 am

I enjoyed doing the online exploration, and am sorry about your transportation problems. I hope that in the future, you will find someone who will be able to take you to those places, and enjoy the pleasures of being engulfed by sucking mire again.[/quote]

you really are an amazing spotter! and very accurate with your boggy areas in the peak district,. the confusing thing about those bogs from the air is that the white patches you see are actually exposed grit stone,. so these areas are usually devoid of anything sinkable as the peat has been eroded or harvested away,. but you were totally accurate with the fact that the darker areas are indeed the sinky areas,.. ive been on many trips up there and its rather annoying as it all looks the same,. u could literally be walking a few feet from a bottomless bog and not know it - if memory serves I think I had 5 failed attempts evolving miles of hiking before I started to understand where the likely places were of striking gold

ahh the memories :) thanks again boggs

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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby Boggy Man » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:54 am

Jon Smith wrote:Thanks. :) I haven't been in that area, but I can check them all out, unless private property.


I think the biggest concern is the area around Warner Lake, which looks like it may possibly be ranchland, and the closest access from the north and west is gated private property. :( I also noticed what looked like some sort of building/shed near two collections of ponds (check out the white rectangle middle left):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.2606899,-122.967138,426m/data=!3m1!1e3

It just would happen that the area that has the largest concentration of ponds and marshy areas in the region, likely due to more flat areas, most worthy of exploration, may have access issues. :? But, perhaps you may be able to find an alternate, more public, route into the area from a different direction through the maze of logging roads that form a web all over the back country there. :? Good luck!
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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby Kimalainen » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:37 am

gamwam wrote:wow thanks boggy,. unfortunately I live right in the centre of the city and I don't drive,. so even the closest area you pointed out is to far for me to reach and not served by public transport,. however I am well aware of the many bottomless peat bogs in the peak district and I have visited them for sinks a few times back when I had a local sinking friend that had access to a car,. its definatly a gold mine for bottomless bogs up there - and I have posted some videos of a few of my sinks on my socialparody group, I guess I was hoping to find somewhere I could reach myself under my own steam without having to rely on anyone else but I suppose I should remember that I'm surrounded on all sides by city and don't have acess to a car, so have to rely on public transport or my bycicle to get me around - some of the spots that you have pointed out look very promising! so if I can find a way to access them in the future I definatly will

many thanks for casting your eye over my area, I really appreciate the research you have done :)

I know how you feel. I also live deep in the city. Although I do have a car, I can't really go anywhere because of how frustrating and time consuming it is to enter/exit the city. Because I haven't been around mud very much, I am not used to it, and I don't exactly enjoy it. But I hope that I can move out of this overpopulated wasteland one day, to the country, and have more opportunity. Instead of living in California I would rather live in Oregon or Washington.

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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby Boggy Man » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:38 am

gamwam wrote:you really are an amazing spotter! and very accurate with your boggy areas in the peak district,. the confusing thing about those bogs from the air is that the white patches you see are actually exposed grit stone,. so these areas are usually devoid of anything sinkable as the peat has been eroded or harvested away,. but you were totally accurate with the fact that the darker areas are indeed the sinky areas,.. ive been on many trips up there and its rather annoying as it all looks the same,. u could literally be walking a few feet from a bottomless bog and not know it - if memory serves I think I had 5 failed attempts evolving miles of hiking before I started to understand where the likely places were of striking gold

ahh the memories :) thanks again boggs


So, those white areas are bedrock and not winter ice. That is one example of how correlating what things look like from the sky with what they are really like on site is quite important in helping refine one's search. Still, areas with rock outcroppings can still harbor deep mud further away, since my Crescent Road pond sinking area also has rock outcroppings, and even cliffs, in the area.

One of my regrets regarding passing what may have been a possible sinking spot years ago occurred when I lived in Kamloops, BC. At that time, I thought that the deepest mud would be closer to the water, and the further away from the water you got, the more solid it would be. So, when exploring a section of south shoreline along the east end of Kamloops Lake, I stuck close to the water, ignoring one patch of wet muddy ground that was further away from the water, although I did step in the edge a little. I later came to realize that it may have been spring fed, and could have had deeper stuff if I had investigated it further! I regretted not checking it out, and I went through a lot of trouble accessing the area, heading up a highway, turning off onto a dirt road that went through rolling grasslands with some alkali lakes, hiking down a large steep hill to the valley bottom, crossing railroad tracks, finally reaching the shoreline, exploring the shoreline, and then heading back the way I came. Today, the area of grasslands and alkali ponds now have private buildings/residences there, including one cluster right on the shoreline (of course, for all I know, that mud might not have been of any decent depth anyways, since I seem to remember seeing it full of animal imprints). :(
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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby mrcactus747 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:08 am

If I ever buy a country home with a lake or pond something that I own, I could welcome the sinkers there as long as it has a real good sinking. I would test them myself before I allow it, but no responsibity for an accident. I also make sure its real remote so lot more privacy for our pleasure.

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Re: Sinking Locations For Everyone... With your help??

Postby tomuk4444 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:19 am

Hi new to this forum, does anyone know of anywhere near London, UK or the south coast where I can sink into the mud/clay/bog?


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