H.R. McMaster and the Battle of 73 Easting

[kham]

There has been some stuff written about this here and there, and on various shows, but sometimes the best account, is the one from the guy who lead the attack. Eagle Troop at the Battle of 73 Easting

I often have wondered what the Sovs thought at Frunze, seeing their own tactics (Airland Battle) executed as they had only wished they could. As well as watching all their hardware, frontline stuff, getting vaporized like the Rebels at Hoth

A good read. And quotes Rommel twice. Definitely a Patton guy

[PM2K]

This is probably going to be the last armored battle in history, at least, in the traditional sense. Soon, it'll all likely be drones and remote controlled vehicles.

[kham]

Keep telling yourself that. Russia is developing the T-14 as their next generation tank. How good it actually will be is an open question, until it actually sees combat . And Reinmetall has developed a 130mm L/51 gun, for use as a weapon in a Leopard 2/Leclerc follow-on tanks. It's pretty much the same as carriers; it comes up every decade or so, this or that weapon system is obsolete, and NEVER will be used again.... Uh huh. Yet armour is still the mailed fist of any army worth talking about. You read his account, and some of the problems, could have ONLY been solved by a manned vehicle.

[Mynock]

The thing I always think about when it comes to droning anything is how much leaner and meaner you can make it when you don't have to put people inside. Think about the M1 Abrahams and all the space that's wasted on squishy fleshbags.......not to mention the weight. The AC system (necessary when you're sitting next to a hot turbine), the seats, the optics, the controls, the seals that keep chemical weapons out......all that is unnecessary weithg and bulk if you just run the thing by remote control. You could have a much smaller, faster, cheaper, more easily mass produced vehicle by running it via remote control.

[kham]

And yet, the attempts thus far on that, have been abject fails. The auto-loader on the T-72/80 being one example. And the T-14, has a completely unmanned turret, as you suggest. How this works out, I guess we will see sooner or later

[DangerGirl]

And then you had the abortive Object 416, in which everyone, including the driver, sat in the turret.

[kham]

Yeesh
An armoured clown car. With the attendant mayhem when hit