bogbud wrote:AI may have drawn some inspiraton from mud-spas or the like.
Very much the same pose as if she is taking a mudbath in a tub.
I have tried that before and it does sometimes helps get them neck deep, but not much deeper.
cerberus wrote:I think this is more a Stable Diffusion issue than with Perchance, though it may be contributing. Stable Diffusion, like most AIs, has certain safeguards/censorship built in to prevent violent or hateful images; I believe this is, at least, part of the reason that you can't seem to get images of faces framed in mud/quicksand. I've encountered the same problem, both with Perchance and using my local install of SD and haven't found a way around it yet. Generally, sinking seems to stop at about neck depth and it doesn't matter what you put in the prompt, you can't get it deeper. That said, occasionally, SD will generate an image that is deeper off a "normal" prompt, the deepest I've seen so far is up to the nose, but with the head upright. It would seem then that SD applies the rules rigidly to what you ask for but allows a bit of latitude on what it ends up with. The best thing I can suggest is to attempt to give it as much opportunity to bend the rules as possible!
I was kinda afraid of that, though I know it will do what I want as I've been able to do it in the past, but it just refuses to cooperate on a set I've been working on. I did try some of your suggestions from yesterday, and right out of the gate I got one that was almost perfect, but for some reason, it was black and white. I added "color photo" after that, and dozens more generations later, I never got anywhere near that again
cerberus wrote:As you can tell from the prompts I've used, it is mostly a matter of luck (well, model plus prompt plus format plus seed) and if you generate enough images you'll get some that are like this.
Oh yes, trial and error is synonymous with making AI pics. Nevertheless, thanks for your help, I'll keep on trying your suggestions and see if it helps. Maybe one day I'll get lucky