Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

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Which version of the swamp scene is better in the movie "And the dawns are quiet here"

1)Soviet film 1972
17
71%
2)The Chinese-Russian film 2005
1
4%
3)Indian Film (Peranmai) 2009 (based on)
3
13%
4) Russian fill 2015
3
13%
 
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Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby John1212 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:30 pm

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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby TK421 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:50 am

Ok, maybe the rust is starting to show but I am familiar with the OG scene. What were the other ones? Also links for the uninitiated would help.
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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby John1212 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:53 am

TK421 wrote:Ok, maybe the rust is starting to show but I am familiar with the OG scene. What were the other ones? Also links for the uninitiated would help.

Hmm. That's right. Then I'll add them here later. I don't know if there's an Indian movie on YouTube, but there are definitely others. And in this regard, I ask - how to give a link so that it immediately comes out at the right moment? If, for example, the USSR film lasts the standard time for the film, then others are already TV series. And what does OG? Original mean?

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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby ghostofmyeyes » Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:50 pm

OG is short for 'original gangster'. It was a term used by black americans to denote either literally an established gangster, or more broadly an experienced person who commands respect, a survivor. OG soon came into wider use, as a way of saying 'original' with two syllables instead of three. At first it was sort of for humorous effect - a person leading a more comfortable/safe life is not considered fit to evaluate what is and isn't 'gangster', and it sounds funny when they try - so why not just call everything 'gangster' and hope you're right some of the time? The humor has long expired by now, but because OG is faster to say and type, it remains in wide use, and I've met young people who use it without knowing what the letters stand for.

As for versions, I haven't seen the one out of India, but of the other three, the Soviet one is the best. The bog isn't just water, the actress is very beautiful and sells the scene, and the black and white filming makes the swamp look more eerie and otherworldly.

The Russian/Chinese version had some good points to it - It's the longest version with 20 episodes, and puts in a decent amount of time building up dread of the swamp before episode 17, when Lisaveta tries to cross it alone. Most of the sink is watery, but they took the time to film a close-up of her face slow-motion submerging in opaque but thin mud.

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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby SinkerCutie » Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:53 pm

No, OG stands for Original Generation. The gangster part is due to its use over the years. Anyway, it was originally meant to be used to mean the first iteration of something.

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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby ghostofmyeyes » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:23 pm

SinkerCutie wrote:No, OG stands for Original Generation. The gangster part is due to its use over the years. Anyway, it was originally meant to be used to mean the first iteration of something.


That makes sense as a backronym, but I am certain I never heard or saw OG used in place of 'original' before 'original gangster' came into mainstream use.

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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby TK421 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:54 am

John1212 wrote:
TK421 wrote:Ok, maybe the rust is starting to show but I am familiar with the OG scene. What were the other ones? Also links for the uninitiated would help.

Hmm. That's right. Then I'll add them here later. I don't know if there's an Indian movie on YouTube, but there are definitely others. And in this regard, I ask - how to give a link so that it immediately comes out at the right moment? If, for example, the USSR film lasts the standard time for the film, then others are already TV series. And what does OG? Original mean?



Lol Sorry! The original Russian version. I know there was a remake done in a form of a series but not sure which one that is. Never seen the Indian version however if it is anything like the Bollywood iterations of QS before it, I will keep my expectations low lol. Not sure what the 4th is that I am missing so 2 out of the 4 I am unfamiliar with.
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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby TK421 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:59 am

SinkerCutie wrote:No, OG stands for Original Generation. The gangster part is due to its use over the years. Anyway, it was originally meant to be used to mean the first iteration of something.



It has multiple uses. OG can mean all the above mentioned and I have heard it used in all those forms. It’s become a much more casual way to say “original” or “1st generation” these days.
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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby TK421 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:03 am

ghostofmyeyes wrote:The humor has long expired by now, but because OG is faster to say and type, it remains in wide use, and I've met young people who use it without knowing what the letters stand for.


This is why if I walk in a room and yell “REGULATORS” and no one responds “MOUNT UP”, then I know they ain’t my peoples :lol:
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Re: Scene in "And the dawns Here are Quiet"

Postby PA Jack » Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:08 am

I voted with the majority for the original Russian scene, which I had seen many times before. I had not seen any of the others. The acting in the Indian scene was quite good, but there really was only water there, and the actress had to fake the presence of quicksand on the bottom. The original venue was the only one IMO that was actually a “quicksand” scene. Just my opinion.
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