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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby dlodoski » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:09 am

Nessie wrote: ....My advice, Dave, is to keep your eyes wide open and lap up any alternative well in advance of the day you need it. Sounds like you're already learning stuff, but keep learning it. Don't do it 'til you have to but if you have to move, do it, and if you have to provide a backdoor way in, do it.

Yea, I am paying attention. I have been for quite some time.

As it happens, I have been developing a newsletter. It's on a paid service, so it should be relatively safe (I will be stashing the address list regularly). Email is a completely different animal from any kind of fixed hosting. So I should at least be able to get word out about Quicksandfans, and/or accessing it, if things get weird. In fact, one of the topic areas in the campaign template is 'Quicksandfans News'.

My advice for everybody else is that if you like being here for free and like the way this site loads, get political. Badger the crap out of your politicians and the FCC itself. Don't count on the free market to solve this for you. Markets like sell tickets.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby PM2K » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:44 pm

Isn't there an election coming up in 2018?

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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby Duncan Edwards » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:21 pm

PM2K wrote:Isn't there an election coming up in 2018?


This is a regulatory issue of the FCC which is part of the executive branch and determined by the President Who is not up for election until 2020. Even then it would be difficult to reverse from both a technical and regulatory standpoint.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby PM2K » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:37 pm

Duncan Edwards wrote:
PM2K wrote:Isn't there an election coming up in 2018?


This is a regulatory issue of the FCC which is part of the executive branch and determined by the President Who is not up for election until 2020. Even then it would be difficult to reverse from both a technical and regulatory standpoint.


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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby DJlurker » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:01 pm

Seems like some people might be making a mountain out of a mole hill… I’m part of the wait-and-see crowd. :geek:

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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby Villein » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:01 am

As an outsider looking in, I don't think this is an issue you can vote away.
Neither major party is going to embrace the ordinary voter over the sway of corporate lobbyists alone, it'll take significant pressure from a bi-partisan grassroots movement to ensure the level playing field that is Net Neutrality.

And given your political climate right now that seems a mission: impossible.
This 'domestic' issue will affect a goodly portion of the rest of the world as well, for the worse.
I don't think we know exactly what the flow-on effects will be outside the US but sadly I can envisage no future where the loss of Net Neutrality will benefit any of us personally.

That's all I'll say on the issue.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby Nessie » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:55 pm

Villein wrote:As an outsider looking in, I don't think this is an issue you can vote away.


You noticed that too, eh? Yeah, it's depressing.

I'm still hoping this awful idea will go down in flames somehow. But I have been Googling around a bit.

The most promising thing I see is the idea of alternative ISPs. A Big ISP might be able to block content and slow stuff down, but I haven't heard any talk yet about legally limiting every household to only one provider to protect the monopoly of Big ISPs.

Not much shaking there now but there would be a sudden demand for independent, neutral internet providers if we soon find out that we can't do what we want any more. The end result of this could be that every computer has two connections -- one for online shopping, screwing around on big mainstream social media like Facebook, and big downloads. Then we flip to the other and come to Quicksandfans.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby dlodoski » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:08 pm

Nessie wrote: ...The most promising thing I see is the idea of alternative ISPs. A Big ISP might be able to block content and slow stuff down, but I haven't heard any talk yet about legally limiting every household to only one provider to protect the monopoly of Big ISPs.

On promising idea that I saw floated was the idea of Municipal ISPs.

Cities already provide plenty of services to their residents, so why not get a nice backbone connection and hook up the citizens? If Washington doesn't care about regulating the resource, then they shouldn't regulate who can organize a system to provide it.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby Boggy Man » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:40 am

Someone did some analysis and discovered that a large number of pro-repeal net neutrality comments submitted to the FCC were likely faked!

https://hackernoon.com/more-than-a-million-pro-repeal-net-neutrality-comments-were-likely-faked-e9f0e3ed36a6
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Re: Net Neutrality

Postby dlodoski » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:15 am

Boggy Man wrote:Someone did some analysis and discovered that a large number of pro-repeal net neutrality comments submitted to the FCC were likely faked!

https://hackernoon.com/more-than-a-million-pro-repeal-net-neutrality-comments-were-likely-faked-e9f0e3ed36a6

Yea, I saw that.

Unfortunately, not surprising in this day and age.
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