Desperate need to document the history of the QS movement.

[Nessie]

Maybe Kaol will show up on this thread. That would be cool all by itself as he's definitely very important to my personal quicksand history. Without Kaol there would have been no Nessie.

Kaol was the guy who showed me that guys who like quicksand aren't substantially different from guys who don't. He did have stories and pictures that spoke to the fetish side, but he also posted stuff like the short story "Celebrity Quicksand Olympics" and a quicksand word-find. Nobody who puts up things like that is feeling the slightest bit of shame.

That's a lesson that I really took to heart. Do not take your own "quicksand thing" too seriously. If you are comfortable enough to laugh at it, you're in a good place.

It would definitely be awesome if Elvira went sinking with me, and have it captured on video (or just her sinking into my Crescent Road pond bog on video)! One week left before regular deer Hunting Season begins, which is September 10'th (deer season opened Sept 1'st for only youths and archers).

I like Elvira.

And I do not like deer season! The hunters overrun my bogs every year! A mudpit will be nice and private for me all year long, and then deer season hits...and there they are, the dudes in camo with the guns!

Be careful out there!

Nessie

[nachtjaeger]

I disagree. There were a bunch of folks from DS who also hung out in SL (sometimes at the same time) and did a lot of creative work creating interactive quicksand pits, etc. JT even had a copy of Sinking Island over in SL for awhile, before he sold the virtual real estate to another user. As far as SL not being a "chatroom" this is technically true. However, I have memories of spending lots of time chatting with other SL users. Especially one time sitting on a virtual beach at virtual sunset with another community member, while we helped each other through some thorny personal problems. On the downside, it was the combination of DS and SL that got me within a half-inch of Internet Addiction. So SL had to go for me.

^I don't believe Second Life would be considered a chatroom. It's more of a virtual world. While some users have created QS-themed areas, in my opinion it's difficult for the QS community to claim SL as part of its history.

[nachtjaeger]

Okay, been avoiding this thread too, but I may as well contribute my two cents.

Like a lot of others, once I started using teh interwebz ('95 or so?) I ended up typing "quicksand" into a search engine. Next thing I know, I am getting blasted off my computer chair by the sound of a woman shouting "Help, me, I'm in quicksand!" followed by the MIDI version of "Red Rubber Ball." That was it. This was back when ISPs were giving away hosting space trying to create a market. (The 'drug dealer' business model; make it free, get 'em hooked, then start charging.)

Think I'll just hit some random memories for now.

Messyfun.com

MessyChris- remember waiting with great anticipation as her latest pic would download on a dialup connection.

Nessie's long-vanished Yahoo! group. There were lots of talking animals.

Pippa. Used to email her back and forth, she gave me a CD in return for a custom story, which is unfortunately long lost (the story, not the CD. I still have that.)

Posting my first QS stories to the Internet. Gosh, I had forgotten about this- It's still up! http://www.home.earthlink.net/~ostlandr/

At some point I switched to posting my stories on other folks' websites, as I never found the time or inclination to learn HTML, and maintaining my own website was a major PIA.

Met Fred588 on DS. We used to chat a lot, got to know each other, and I eventually ended up crewing for Studio 588 on a couple shoots. Checked a few things off the ol' bucket list that week.

JT

Hotrod and Chris

evisther and Lisa

Minako

Spitfirewinds

Kingsmythe

Sakura Inverse

Lord Muck

Pamela Rose and Robert

Kristine Lynn (who once nominated me for the Pulitzer Prize in online flirting.)

More folks whose names I can't bring to mind right now, which is embarrassing since some of you hang out here at QSF also.

More later - have to take Weredragonlady to the apple orchard this morning.

[mudxdresser]

Keep in mind, the mud network existed long before it appeared on the Internet. It originally ran by snail mail. When I first encountered it in the 1970's, the hub was James Reid out of Memphis. The major activitiy was collecting and sharing VHS tapes of mud scenes. Anybody else here go that far back?

I've seen references to "apartment" mud wrestling going back to the 1950's, sort of like the old Wesson oil sex parties. The AMFEM wrestling contact magazine was the oldest place where folks met that I am personally aware of.

Rob Blaine was, in essence, the long awaited messiah of the original snail mail mud network, his coming was a constant hope and dream for decades, in other words, the mud network desperately wanted someone out there producing mud videos. Rob was on the snail mail mud network and was gotten into business by another mud video producer who preceeded him, known as the Quagmire Rider, who produced the Have Mud, Will Wallow video tape series but did not wish to continue making mud videos professionally.

Rob was encouraged to take over the business side of making mud videos and to create a contact newsletter to take the place of the old AMFEM magazine ads. The resulting mud video business Rob set up was successful but never proved cabable of reproducing the overtly sexual material that was originally intended. So, ironically, it should be noted that the nature of most of the mud related material available took a sharp turn towards R-rated and way from X-rated when he basically became the new hub.

Bill Shipton (Splosh Magazine) was a contemporary and, frankly, I'm no longer sure who beat who out of the gate. But it isn't really important, what is important however is that Bill Shipton introduced a successful business formula of mixing wetlook, food, and mud material and that this formula was a source of immense frustration to the mud network as you had to buy material that was of no interest to you to get the mud scenes. Rob adopted this formula initially but was eventually able to make the break and produce material with only mud content profitably.

Somewhere along the way, Rob's was reluctantly persuaded to finally get onto the Internet and his newsletter contact list went away. That will be somewhere in the early 90's and also where most of the mud producers and most of the older members of the mud network community that you know today entered the scene. The thing to remember is, they didn't really create the mud network, just brought it into the digital age. Rob is the transition point.