Quicksand Fans

Hello all,

I know the producers ask for feedback consistently on these forums, so wanted to start a thread about the broad/thematic things we'd like to see in the 2016 shooting season. I'm steering away from specific suggestions (like use model X, wear costume Y) because those are a lot more personal and specific, and difficult for producers to reliably work with. Hoping we can discuss ideas that have really worked in the past year and we'd like to see explored further! I'm kicking off with a few things I'd like to see - restricting my feedback to the dramatic side of things. Welcome discussion on these and additional ideas!

1. "No-Mistake" Quicksand

One of my favorite recent scenes has been Annabelle in "Swamp Chick Workout". The sinking in this scene is some of my favorite of all time, because it's slow, but relatively constant, and offers Annabelle no breathing room in her escape. There's no point where she's able to extract herself up 6 inches without resistance, no point where she stays comfortably still for more than a few seconds, and no point where her movements (to try to escape) don't cause her precious depth. The pacing of the scene is outstanding because it's a race between Annabelle sinking downwards and Annabelle moving forwards to the rope, and it's clear that even one misstep means she's not making it. Great drama.

Would love to see more scenes like this where it's well established that, yes - this quicksand is escapable, but just barely. Characteristics for me include few pauses in the downward movement (which generally means a shorter scene, but not necessarily), and no obvious moments where the victim is able to pull themselves back up or float. I don't particularly have a preference for slow or fast sinking - my 'danger' excitement comes from there being no break.

2. Actresses Playing Themselves - With Uncertainty

One of the best parts about the recent MPVBleck scenes for me has been the opportunity to see the actresses (all very experienced in quicksand) play themselves and deal with a new, uncertain situation. The few minutes it takes for each new model to really believe that the MPVBleck behaves enough like the quicksand their used to for them to escape has been consistently great. Sarah Michelle in particular was electric in the first few minutes of her first MPVBleck video. I really like these scenes, because the fact that the model isn't playing a character heightens the realism a bit for me (not because of their acting skills, it's just a reminder that these are scenes with a plan).

It would be cool to explore this idea further. Continuing to film those first few minutes anytime an actress is introduced to a new pit would definitely be welcome. Introducing other 'challenges' that heighten the uncertainty for these experienced sinkers would also be fun - for example, a series of scenes where the model begins (and the scene opens, maybe after a brief explanation to the model outside the pit) waist deep in the center of a bit, some distance from a rope. In each scene, the actress would have a short amount of time (maybe 3 minutes) before the rope is taken away - if she gets to the rope in time, she gets to pull herself out, but if she fails to reach the rope quickly enough, it gets pulled away and she has to submerge. It would be exciting to see how each model takes the challenge on, balancing moving closer to the rope quickly with sinking and the time pressure.

Anyway - would love to hear more thoughts and give our amazing producers some ideas to chew on for the next few months!

While I think this is a good idea, it has the problem that we producers are restricted in discussing things outside the producers forums if their discussion might constitute promotion of their own work. Thus, so long as that rule is respected, my responses may have to be posted in the Studio 588 forum rather than here. I can say something like, "Cool idea but here is one complication," but I am not supposed to say "Here are the titles of ten scenes where something like this was already done."

Thank you for the ideas.

In the first section, "No-Mistake" Quicksand, several challenges are proposed, it seems. The one that caught my eye was the 'no pause' concept - one of the elusive concepts that we strive for. In many instances, some diligent editing can help. But I think all the producers here try for that in reality as much as possible. But, more to your point, a good template to work from. I always favor a 'knowing' gal (she knows about the quicksand, and sometimes even better, the effect it has on us). And this is a 'knowing gal' concept.

The second idea, 'Actresses Playing Themselves' is also interesting, and should result in quite a few replies here.

Alternate sinking substances may very well be the way forward for fresh creativity in sinking videos. And really, if the conditions are right, simply tying one hand behind the back can change a real-world escape dynamic considerably. I hope to apply some of the experience we have gained and start doing theme variations on the best mixture results we know. Should be interesting.

dlodoski wrote:The one that caught my eye was the 'no pause' concept - one of the elusive concepts that we strive for. In many instances, some diligent editing can help. But I think all the producers here try for that in reality as much as possible.

It can be accomplished with a submerged platform that slowly but steadily lowers in the Hollywood pit.

MPVBleck does offer the steady sink along with the perfect texture, but it is generally a bit too fast, unless it is extremely thick, at which point extracting the models would be a bit more challenging.

Boggy Man wrote:

dlodoski wrote:The one that caught my eye was the 'no pause' concept - one of the elusive concepts that we strive for. In many instances, some diligent editing can help. But I think all the producers here try for that in reality as much as possible.

It can be accomplished with a submerged platform that slowly but steadily lowers in the Hollywood pit.

MPVBleck does offer the steady sink along with the perfect texture, but it is generally a bit too fast, unless it is extremely thick, at which point extracting the models would be a bit more challenging.

I presume that "no pause" refers to sinking that is slow but more or less continuous. This is something we at Studio 588 have achieved on many occasions, particularly in the Blowgun, Rite of Passage, and Gumball Sacrifice scenes. Not every one of those scenes does this perfectly or with the rate completely constant but some of these scenes come pretty close, from ankle deep to under.

Boggy Man wrote:

dlodoski wrote:The one that caught my eye was the 'no pause' concept - one of the elusive concepts that we strive for. In many instances, some diligent editing can help. But I think all the producers here try for that in reality as much as possible.

It can be accomplished with a submerged platform that slowly but steadily lowers in the Hollywood pit.

MPVBleck does offer the steady sink along with the perfect texture, but it is generally a bit too fast, unless it is extremely thick, at which point extracting the models would be a bit more challenging.

Hmmm. It is possible to sink steadily in different textures of MPVBleck. We just didn't ask the ladies to do it.

I think we were too preoccupied with showing how deep it was. I will definitely 'slow things down' this coming season.

I like the "Radio call" concept. One girl sinking and another girl aroused by watching her, until final submersion+orgasm. This is tripple turn on. Hope that the same quality models as Paris and Lena will be available. I would also try to return to more natural substances/locations. Too much watery peat on one side or too much artificial clay on the other doesn't look realistic to me. But generaly the scenes with well balanced erotic and dramatic aspect are the best. Especialy the ones where you don't know if the girl is more aroused or scared (like Dave's "Lost her grip").