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A Tar pit for filming

Postby Fred588 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:59 pm

If anyone here is strong and fit enough, not to mention desperate enough, I have a project for you. It will mean first constructing a container with some unusual design features, placing that in the ground [here at Studio 588], and then filling it with an experimental material to make a tar pit. I am not going to say what the experimental material is but I have made it in a small amount and found it to look and act very much like tar. It is NOT tar, however, and contains no petroleum-based materials. You will have to be handy with tools and eventually get yourself - and the container - in the pre-season or post season.
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby TK421 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:54 am

Fred588 wrote:If anyone here is strong and fit enough, not to mention desperate enough, I have a project for you. It will mean first constructing a container with some unusual design features, placing that in the ground [here at Studio 588], and then filling it with an experimental material to make a tar pit. I am not going to say what the experimental material is but I have made it in a small amount and found it to look and act very much like tar. It is NOT tar, however, and contains no petroleum-based materials. You will have to be handy with tools and eventually get yourself - and the container - in the pre-season or post season.



I just wanna see if I am reading this right. So you want to build it in ground and then remove it or is this a permanent installation?
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby Fred588 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:36 am

TK421 wrote:
Fred588 wrote:If anyone here is strong and fit enough, not to mention desperate enough, I have a project for you. It will mean first constructing a container with some unusual design features, placing that in the ground [here at Studio 588], and then filling it with an experimental material to make a tar pit. I am not going to say what the experimental material is but I have made it in a small amount and found it to look and act very much like tar. It is NOT tar, however, and contains no petroleum-based materials. You will have to be handy with tools and eventually get yourself - and the container - in the pre-season or post season.



I just wanna see if I am reading this right. So you want to build it in ground and then remove it or is this a permanent installation?


permanent installation here at the Studio
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby Mynock » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:39 pm

Would need more input on the container. Size? Material? What "unusual design features" are we talking?
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby Fred588 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:46 pm

Mynock wrote:Would need more input on the container. Size? Material? What "unusual design features" are we talking?


It might bore others less if we discussed this ore directly, but I will try to describe what I envision.

The container itself DOES have some unique requirements. I do not envision full submergences in this, or even sinking more than about waist deep, so what I am thinking is a main container about 30 to 36 inches deep, probably closer to 30. It could be round or square. It might go into a hole in the ground or, more likely, sit on the ground, surrounded by an elevated deck of some sort. Then there would be a second part I will call a flange. This would fit into the top few inches of the main container, making a seal that would reliably prevent any leakage. The flange would be larger, perhaps 6 feet square and with an elevated rim. The rim would be only an inch or so high and would ideally be irregular in shape. If the whole thing was surrounded by a deck the flange would rest on the deck surface.

The above is not critical EXCEPT that it meet two requirements. First, it must prevent any contamination of the "tar" including from rainwater, and second, that it prevent the "tar" from spilling out.

My preference would be for this to use the surrounding deck approach. The Studio already has a 16 by 16 foot deck. Most of the deck has joists on 16 inch centers but there is one place that already has a square of about 4 by 4 that is free of obstructions. The deck surface is less than 30 inches above the ground so some material will have to be removed, probably without any heavy equipment.

The above is about as far as I have thought things through.
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby Theo » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:15 pm

Wish I could help, but I think the best I could do is contribute to the results. I'll be very excited to see that!
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby Fred588 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:37 pm

Theo wrote:Wish I could help, but I think the best I could do is contribute to the results. I'll be very excited to see that!


Unfortunately there will probably be no results. I had a pit under construction for this before the fire but I think my age has reached the point I can no longer do what need to be done without help.
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby timothy » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:41 am

Here’s something you might could use. 48x40x46


https://akr02.wiredcdn.com/getattachmen ... n-in-stock

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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby Fred588 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:26 am

timothy wrote:Here’s something you might could use. 48x40x46


https://akr02.wiredcdn.com/getattachmen ... n-in-stock


Those are a little too large but could be used. However, the issue of the flange is not addressed, [Not sure if I discussed that in the open forum or just in direct correspndence.
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Re: A Tar pit for filming

Postby timothy » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:29 am

Ok. Get the lid to go with it to keep weather out. Build up sloping grade around it. Line it with heavy plastic.


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