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QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:11 am
by chefothefuture
Greetings all-
I figured I should make a formal hello or Aloha to the forum before continuing on....

With the cold weather soon upon the Pacific NW, and the lack of any QS on the Big Island (Thanks Fred588 for the info :-) ), I got to thinking about creating my own "pit".
Well, since on the mainland, I put my Hawaii pit idea on hold but after reading the post about the blogger's experience at a mud bath a light went off in my head!
I though I'd look for a spa with a mud bath and hop in.
To my horror, I found that there do not seem to be any spas with mud bathing in the Seattle area...(The only one I found that said anything about it said "coming soon". ) That and maybe one other was for ladies only...
Undaunted, I made one in my rec room using a 150gal watering tub. I put a heater in but have yet to try it out.
I used peat and bentonite with good success.
Any one have any other good "recipes"?

Another thing is that I discovered some pretty cool health benefits online when looking up clay and mud bathing. I had to smile to myself when one page said that it is better for the lymphatic system to be upright. Well, I think most of us here prefer sinking upright yes? LOL!

The hot mud bath certainly did wonders for my angina...

I wonder what yoga nidra would be like... ;-)

All the best,
chef

Re: QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:24 am
by Fred588
If you truly have angina please be advised of three things:

1. Make sure the temperature of your mud bath is not really hot. I have read a number of reports of cardiac events being triggered by hot tub immersion and by saunas. I believe the theory is that significant changes in blood pressure are associated with becoming overheated.

2. If you sink in to your chest or deeper the weight of the mud will tend to compress your chest. This will make it more difficult to breathe. If you feel an uncomfortable pressure reduce your depth immediately.

3. The pressure of the mud will tend to increase your blood pressure. The same thing happens to a lesser degree when immersed in a swimming pool. When you leave the mud this pressure will drop. If you leave very quickly it will drop very quickly, just like what happens sometimes when a person gets up out of bed too quickly, and you could become dizzy or light-headed. A very rapid change like that is not a good idea if you already have cardiac issues.

Anyway, take it slowly.

chefothefuture wrote:Greetings all-
I figured I should make a formal hello or Aloha to the forum before continuing on....

With the cold weather soon upon the Pacific NW, and the lack of any QS on the Big Island (Thanks Fred588 for the info :-) ), I got to thinking about creating my own "pit".
Well, since on the mainland, I put my Hawaii pit idea on hold but after reading the post about the blogger's experience at a mud bath a light went off in my head!
I though I'd look for a spa with a mud bath and hop in.
To my horror, I found that there do not seem to be any spas with mud bathing in the Seattle area...(The only one I found that said anything about it said "coming soon". ) That and maybe one other was for ladies only...
Undaunted, I made one in my rec room using a 150gal watering tub. I put a heater in but have yet to try it out.
I used peat and bentonite with good success.
Any one have any other good "recipes"?

Another thing is that I discovered some pretty cool health benefits online when looking up clay and mud bathing. I had to smile to myself when one page said that it is better for the lymphatic system to be upright. Well, I think most of us here prefer sinking upright yes? LOL!

The hot mud bath certainly did wonders for my angina...

I wonder what yoga nidra would be like... ;-)

All the best,
chef

Re: QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:25 am
by chefothefuture
Hi Fred588-
Thanks for your advice/concern.
It may depend on what type of angina I have: blockage , inflammation of the arteries, or spasms of some sort. Still waiting on the tests....
But-
As I said earlier, when immersed in warm (@95-100F) mud, I actually felt quite relaxed and any tightness did release.
The weight on the chest was not compressing, but more like being in a warm soft bed.
That and after I got out I had several hours of relief.

True- might not be recommended for many, and it's always a good idea to get advise from a health practitioner, but I seem to be having a decent result.
Except for the fact that my heater idea did not pan out....
So it's dump out a bit and add hot water.... LOL!

All the best,
chef

Re: QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:13 am
by Fred588
You can keep an indoor pit tolerably warm if the room temperature is kept warm enough (expensive). It will help a great deal, however, to keep the surface covered whenever it isn't in use. Something like 70 percent of the heat loss from anything wet is via evaporation.


chefothefuture wrote:Hi Fred588-
Thanks for your advice/concern.
It may depend on what type of angina I have: blockage , inflammation of the arteries, or spasms of some sort. Still waiting on the tests....
But-
As I said earlier, when immersed in warm (@95-100F) mud, I actually felt quite relaxed and any tightness did release.
The weight on the chest was not compressing, but more like being in a warm soft bed.
That and after I got out I had several hours of relief.

True- might not be recommended for many, and it's always a good idea to get advise from a health practitioner, but I seem to be having a decent result.
Except for the fact that my heater idea did not pan out....
So it's dump out a bit and add hot water.... LOL!

All the best,
chef

Re: QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:03 pm
by chefothefuture
Fred588 wrote:You can keep an indoor pit tolerably warm if the room temperature is kept warm enough (expensive). It will help a great deal, however, to keep the surface covered whenever it isn't in use. Something like 70 percent of the heat loss from anything wet is via evaporation.


I was on that route as well. Trouble is, I can not heat my rec. room separately from the rest of the house. So it was dump and refill....
Though I did find that a lower temp in the high 80's allowed a longer soak. On some webpage about mud/clay bathing (though I can not remember which) I did read that tepid temperatures are preferable.

No biggie- I am back on Hawaii so that project can be put on hold. Here on the other hand, it IS time to get the back hoe for the pit....

All the best,
chef

Re: QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:59 pm
by Chimerix
chefothefuture wrote:I am back on Hawaii so that project can be put on hold. Here on the other hand, it IS time to get the back hoe for the pit....


Call me when it's done! I'll bring the homebrew!!

Re: QS, Mud Bath, Health benefits etc....

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:29 pm
by chefothefuture
Chimerix wrote:Call me when it's done! I'll bring the homebrew!!


LOL! Well, An unsanctioned pre-Christmas trip to a cath lab put my project on temporary hold.
The pit is dug, but the operator got a little over zealous and dug me a crater LOL!
So before my little hospital vacation, I was trying to figure out a way to line the puka (that's Hawaiian for hole...).
Then there's the thought of what to fill it with... Peat seems to be the best option. Though I will pay extra for the "certified" organic..
Clay is more fun in some ways, but too expensive in these parts...

Might post a pic or two when further along. Pretty spot, has an ocean view too LOL!