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VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:32 am
by jagfiles
Here's a possible video idea for the producers here. One posting I recently did was from the BBC about the gals that were sinking at the beach.
Now there's been news stories as well as videos made involving several gals in a sinking situation (Four Babes in Bog and the BBC story with seven)
Now could have some fun with the title with the amount of models doing a sink at the same time. The title is called DEEP SIX. Needless to say this would involve 6 models. Just a passing thought for a little fun with words for a story there.

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:58 am
by Billie Bonce
jagfiles wrote:The title is called DEEP SIX. Needless to say this would involve 6 models.

I wonder is any of our producers ever chanced to have six models available for shooting in one day? (Actually, four models they did have - we remember!)

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:21 am
by Fred588
Billie Bonce wrote:
jagfiles wrote:The title is called DEEP SIX. Needless to say this would involve 6 models.

I wonder is any of our producers ever chanced to have six models available for shooting in one day? (Actually, four models they did have - we remember!)


While I could, from a practical point of view, do a scene with six, from an economic point of view it is very unlikely. The basic reason is that actresses are paid by the scene but expect to work a whole day, and that can easily be five scenes, or more. To pay a day's wage to six actresses would be prohibitively expensive relative to the amount of production that would take place. Although a scene with six might command a higher price than a scene for one or two, the difference would be slight. It WOULD be possible with community insiders who might be willing to do a scene in exchange for free time in the mud, but the chances of that happening are extremely slim.

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:38 am
by Duncan Edwards
Billie Bonce wrote:
jagfiles wrote:The title is called DEEP SIX. Needless to say this would involve 6 models.

I wonder is any of our producers ever chanced to have six models available for shooting in one day? (Actually, four models they did have - we remember!)


Just to answer the question, yes. Serial Sinker had Janice, Skylar, Mina, Lucy, Danielle, Monique and Stephanie for a total of seven. It was the first time Dave ever let me write and direct so I figured I better go for broke. 8-)

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:49 am
by PM2K
Serial Sinker... I remember that one fondly... could be time for a sequel with the latest models... :D

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:04 am
by Duncan Edwards
Fred588 wrote:...To pay a day's wage to six actresses would be prohibitively expensive relative to the amount of production that would take place. ...the chances of that happening are extremely slim.


What he said.

The direct costs are obviously triple for that of six ladies as opposed to two. The indirect costs involve transportation, lodging, etc. as well as what they cost in lost productivity while they are standing around when all six aren't on screen at once. Even if you sales of a particular scene doubled with such a cast they sure won't quadruple. You could put a ridiculous price tag on an individual scene and hope that enough people actually paid for it but margins are slim enough already. Making it pay is challenging enough without that added risk.

Now if somebody wants to donate enough we can make anything happen. 8-)

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:20 pm
by Fred588
Duncan Edwards wrote:
Fred588 wrote:...To pay a day's wage to six actresses would be prohibitively expensive relative to the amount of production that would take place. ...the chances of that happening are extremely slim.


What he said.

The direct costs are obviously triple for that of six ladies as opposed to two. The indirect costs involve transportation, lodging, etc. as well as what they cost in lost productivity while they are standing around when all six aren't on screen at once. Even if you sales of a particular scene doubled with such a cast they sure won't quadruple. You could put a ridiculous price tag on an individual scene and hope that enough people actually paid for it but margins are slim enough already. Making it pay is challenging enough without that added risk.

Now if somebody wants to donate enough we can make anything happen. 8-)


Yep, even 17 cheerleaders and a sinking bus.

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:39 pm
by wysvp
I would have to agree with what Fred and Duncan have posted so far - from a financial point of view, this would be a very expensive shoot. Now, I have had 6+ models (and 3+ MUAs - that is Makeup Artists) working on a single project, but that is rare.

Another issue is the timing of shoots. When working at a studio, like Studio588, a producer wants to "keep the productions" flowing. This means, while you are shooting one model, another is getting ready for her next scene. When the first scene is done, that model heads off to clean up and prepare for her next shoot, while you are now shooting the second model, and so the process goes. If I have three on set, then we can shoot a duo-character scene, followed by a single character scene, and so on. At the end of the day, you might be able to shoot a three-character scene. Six, alas, is not practical.

Unless - as stated before, you get volunteers. My models, though, will not volunteer - this is their livlihood.

Now, from a purely theoretical standpoint, you could set up a "competition" - get six models to sink together, and the one with the best acting job (as rated by judges) gets $750 or something like that. Just having some fun here!

Mike

Re: VIdeo idea...

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:52 pm
by Robert
We had five female models for a "Sinking Island" segment in the peat at once, and one male produc... er ... model for a total of six in something called "All In".

Robert