Why No Male Productions

[Peter1977]

I have a probably already asked and discussed topic but I just wanted to share the view point, why are there no male orientated quicksand/mud video productions? Is it a lack of male models? Are females far more popular and willing to do it? Is it a logistic problem? Or is it merely the fact there is no market for it?

[Ace]

The latter.

[gamwam]

It's simple really, the majority of the quicksand community consists of straight males, and the majority of the producers are also straight males, and what do straight males like? ,women! So of course most productions contain female stars, that's about the long and short of it I reckon!

Frankly I simply can't see a straight male producer creating a video with a male star, as not only will he not enjoy it himself but he will assume that no one else will either, and at the end of the day these guys are out to make money, and your not gonna do that by selling male quicksand videos to a predominantly straight male audience.

I used to run a gay quicksand Ning group, and quite a number of guys did create the own movies or film them selves in sinking scenarios, and they uploaded them to the group because they knew others would like it, I should imagine if the community were to have grown to a sizeable concern then at least one of them would have started commercially producing scenes to make a bit of dollar, but sadly Ning got rid of all those groups so it never got the chance, similar here exists, if there were more of us that liked to see guys sinking, then in sure someone out there would capitalise on that and start thinking about producing scenes.

If it is defiantly guys you want to see sink, try http://www.mudlover.com

[gamwam]

Infact here's an idea, maybe the board moderators should create a "male" section, it would be interesting to see if anyone actually uploads anything, and how many guys/women there are on here that enjoy male scenes and will a actually contribute, (I give it three months before its deemed a waste of space) lol

[Antares]

I thought that the home movies section was a mostly gay section? It seems that folk upload there quite frequently? Apart from that the non-producer users of the board upload male qs stuff all the time

[gamwam]

Yeah there are quite a few male scenes in there actually, boggyman of course is the biggest uploader, I think the majority of the male stuff that's uploaded is from guys that would rather be able to have a female in there bog video and don't upload a video with intent to appeal to folks that prefer to see men in mud, but rather just want to show off there great bogs , good on them I say , just about makes it worth while for people like me to visit the board I suppose.

Something else I've noticed I that its really only the producers that actually upload female scenes, there seem to be more guys that will upload there own material than galls, and by there own material I don't mean scenes captured from movies ect but there own sinks, I wonder why that is? Do girls not make there own movies as much as guys? Or do they just sit back and wait for the producers to do it for them?

And that's the tricky part about creating a "male" section isn't it?, realistically who would use it? Is there anyone here that actually creates there movies just to appeal to the galls (or guys) that like to watch guys sink? Probably not, because there just isn't the audience for it I guess, the mind boggles!

[Peter1977]

Infact here's an idea, maybe the board moderators should create a "male" section, it would be interesting to see if anyone actually uploads anything, and how many guys/women there are on here that enjoy male scenes and will a actually contribute, (I give it three months before its deemed a waste of space) lol

I like this idea just to see if there is a general interest not just for gay males but the females out there as well who might want to see a guy struggle for once. Just curious to see if there is an audience for it after all or if it is a small tiny segment.

[Peter1977]

Yeah there are quite a few male scenes in there actually, boggyman of course is the biggest uploader, I think the majority of the male stuff that's uploaded is from guys that would rather be able to have a female in there bog video and don't upload a video with intent to appeal to folks that prefer to see men in mud, but rather just want to show off there great bogs , good on them I say , just about makes it worth while for people like me to visit the board I suppose.

Something else I've noticed I that its really only the producers that actually upload female scenes, there seem to be more guys that will upload there own material than galls, and by there own material I don't mean scenes captured from movies ect but there own sinks, I wonder why that is? Do girls not make there own movies as much as guys? Or do they just sit back and wait for the producers to do it for them?

And that's the tricky part about creating a "male" section isn't it?, realistically who would use it? Is there anyone here that actually creates there movies just to appeal to the galls (or guys) that like to watch guys sink? Probably not, because there just isn't the audience for it I guess, the mind boggles!

I guess unless a male section comes about or if someone starts cater towards male scenes (not clips from movies) we may never know.

[PM2K]

My two cents...

I'm a straight guy who enjoys watching both genders sinking. Huge fan of Boggyman's videos, for instance, and some male-oriented art which has been posted in the past. I'm more into the dramatic end of things, but if it has romantic overtones to it, it doesn't bother me.

This has been discussed before over the years, but watching women sink - dramatic or not - does give me a sexual charge because that's the way I'm wired..
I can enjoy watching men sink in a different way. I can identify directly with the sinker, including whether he enjoys the experience, or is in a dramatic fight for survival.

Now, would I purchase such material? Doubtful. Again, I seek out the female sinking for the thrills. But if male material were posted, I'd welcome it. In fact, most of the comic book art I post tend to be male scenes. Of course, there's a lot more of those out there than female ones, but I enjoy it all the same.

If one wanted to create a separate thread for male orientated stuff, I'd be a frequent visitor, and contribute what I can to it.

[Fred588]

My .75 cents worth as I don't have enough to be worth 2 cents.

As far as a separate section is concerned, if the amount of material contributed is small I fail to see why it needs to be in a separate section.

Gamwam is quite correct that the main producers do not produce male material. From my point of view it has nothing to do with what I like to see - its simply a matter of investment recovery. If someone wants to produce such material, at my Studio or anywhere else, they have the same opportunity as anyone else.