Survived North Korea's first missile attack

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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Duncan Edwards » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:31 pm

Fred588 wrote:I have made as much preparation as I can for an array of potential natural disasters (tonados, ice storms, earthquakes, etc).


And that is the realistic level of preparation. I don't want to come across like one of these bunker building nut-jobs that constantly prepares for the imminent collapse of civilization. We certainly don't have to worry about nuclear war on the scale we once did but there is an increasing level of danger from terrorist nukes at the level of North Korea on down. A hit from a Tunguska sized asteroid or comet is probably even more likely than that for most of us. Regardless of the threat it's not difficult to make plans to sustain you and yours for a week.

A couple of examples - During "The Great Flood of 2010" as it's known here some of my neighbors absolutely freaked out when announcement was made that the water might be cut off as the treatment plant was in danger of being submerged. I pointed out that they all had 120-200 liters of water in each house in their water heaters if they knew how to shut their house supply off and get to it. I had to travel a circuitous route to work the next day that was a mystery to the non-natives who thought they were stranded. Gasoline ran low but I had filled two 5 gallon cans when things first started looking bad. One often overlooked resource is living near to a large number of relatives. Not just myself but all of us have a plan for mutual aid if it should be required. We know who among us has the biggest, remotest, most easily defended basement, and there we would meet if something unthinkable happened. A week's worth of canned goods doesn't take up much space or cost much. Just stuff like that.
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Fred588 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:59 pm

One thing people tend to do when disasters threaten is to wait as long as possible, and sometimes too long, before taking action. Three times this fall when natural disasters threatened elsewhere I have issued invitations to head in this direction and to come all the way if there was nothing available closer. Those invitations were not acted upon in any of the cases. In two of those it was apparently the correct decision to stay put. In the third I am told it would have been better to evacuate though coming all the way here would not have been required.

As for myself, evacuation is probably not going to be needed in advance of anything likely except an ice storm, bad snow storm, or forest fire. A tornado or earthquake happens too suddenly. I have a bail bag for the ice storm or fire. The bail bag is, of course, not the extreme survival thing that the survivalists talk about. Its several changes of clothes, medicine kit, and that sort of thing. I would simply head in whatever direction made the most sense, given the threat, and look for a hotel that had a vacancy.
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Mynock » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:23 pm

I don't consider a BOB (Bug-Out-Bag) to be in any way extreme, in fact I would call that the bare minimum of disaster preparation. If all else fails and you have to cut and run at the last minute you want to be able to grab one bag and go.
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Fred588 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:45 pm

For us it should be called Bug Out Gear (BOG).
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Chimerix » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:58 pm

Mynock wrote:Morbidly interesting interactive map.......

http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/? ... 2523&zm=11


Actually, that makes me feel MUCH better! Knowing where I am, and knowing where likely targets are, seems my biggest worries are going to be survivor-related instead of glow-in-the-dark related.
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Mynock » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:07 pm

Number one way to avoid getting nuked--don't live in the target areas. :D
I worry more about rads because I live in the Northeast, surrounded by nuclear power plants. Great for keeping the electrical bill down but not great if one of them decides to go all Chernobyl-y.
Bomb or meltdown, the biggest danger are those airborne particles. You can get them on your clothes or skin and it won't be too bad (basically like getting 2 or 3 chest x-rays) but if you breath them in, you're utterly fucked. That's why you want to bunker down and NOT go outside unless it's absolutely necessary (like, your shelter is on fire).
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Tim Kelly » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:47 pm

Don't worry folks, there isn't going to be a nuclear war, President Moon of SOUTH Korea has invited Kim Jong Un to the Winter Olympics and he's accepted; give the guy a Nobel Peace Prize, he deserves it! He's just saved the world from nuclear war by inviting the protagonists to a party! Hey, if we knew it was that simple 72 years ago, we could have avoided the entire Cold War!
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Duncan Edwards » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:11 pm

Tim Kelly wrote:Don't worry folks, there isn't going to be a nuclear war, President Moon of SOUTH Korea has invited Kim Jong Un to the Winter Olympics and he's accepted; give the guy a Nobel Peace Prize, he deserves it! He's just saved the world from nuclear war by inviting the protagonists to a party! Hey, if we knew it was that simple 72 years ago, we could have avoided the entire Cold War!


Well it does make certain there won't be any trouble during the festivities. Unfortunately it will last until about 30 minutes after the torch goes out.
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Mynock » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:12 pm

How to be Kim Jong Un:
1. Wave nuclear weapons around and pretend to be crazy.
2. Pretend to be placated with a few billion dollars of foreign aid.
3. Repeat whenever you run out of booze Caviar and hookers.

Little fucker's been playing the entire world like a harp.
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Re: Survived North Korea's first missile attack

Postby Palinov Jensen » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:11 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 831845bb14

"Hawaii’s false missile alert sent by troubled worker who thought an attack was imminent, officials say."


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