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[Billie Bonce]

The fact is, in most jurisdictions the world over, normal mud fetish behavior at an outdoor location is either trespassing or lewd behavior in some way, at the minimum.

Either this is very far from reality, or I live in Paradise.

I come to a conclusion that some of mud fetishists consider the illegality of their behavior as a part of their fetish, so an attempt to explain them that they do nothing wrong is like taking a toy away from a child.

[Billie Bonce]

Here is what I said here 10 days ago, and nobody agreed to this

What about the muddy gear, I think "went fishing (or hiking, or picking mushrooms), got stuck in a bog, nearly drown, barely escaped" should work fine.

As to me, the following looks similar

When someone checks you on your way to or from that sinking spot and you get into any kind of control, so what? Just tell you went hiking, geocashing (present your receiver), landscape photographing (present your camera), observing animals (present your binoculars) or whatever you like. It is not even important, if the officer does actually believe you. There is no law in the world that disallows walking around in public areas. So those cops that were checking me were only vaguely interested in the wet waders and gear, they didn't even ask where i got them that muddy.

I think, the worst thing may happen if they found a dead body in the bog and they have no suspects, then any evasive explanations may become an evidence...

[PM2K]

I think, the worst thing may happen if they found a dead body in the bog and they have no suspects, then any evasive explanations may become an evidence...

I would think the worse thing than that is to be caught wearing nothing but mud... unless it is being caught by an attractive someone who gives you a wink instead of handcuffs...

[Nessie]

People like boggyman or you (as long as i do interpret your nickname right) may have to answer more embarassing questions but i still don't see any violation of a specific law. I assume your boghole is NOT just across the street, so that anyone may see you (that may qualify as disorderly conduct or something like that).

Actually, I did film one clip in very dressy clothing (now on Club MPV as "White Lace At Poison Sumac Bog") and although for me, a white blouse with long lacy sleeves and a sleek black skirt is entirely gender-appropriate...I thought it looked good on me, actually, but it didn't exactly go with the environment, plus, I had to contend with the change of clothing (getting into it and then getting into something else after trashing it).

I really wish I could do more clips like that because I love to sink in dressy stuff. But the clothing creates additional problems!

Nessie

[Nessie]

The fact is, in most jurisdictions the world over, normal mud fetish behavior at an outdoor location is either trespassing or lewd behavior in some way, at the minimum.

Either this is very far from reality, or I live in Paradise.

Maybe you do.

I live in America. Not all parts of America are the same.

Where I live, the cultural climate is tolerant and liberal but I've been on mud outings in Conservative-Land and suffice it to say, the mud folk there do in fact have more to worry about. A lack of tolerance for diversity in sexuality in general does translate out to a much bigger "PERVERT!" factor for people who add mud to their sex lives.

Nessie

[Billie Bonce]

I think, the worst thing may happen if they found a dead body in the bog and they have no suspects, then any evasive explanations may become an evidence...

I would think the worse thing than that is to be caught wearing nothing but mud... unless it is being caught by an attractive someone who gives you a wink instead of handcuffs...

Heh... Two worlds, two ways of life. I'm very doubt that in my country anyone can meet any policemen outside of a populated area. Even if someone was caught naked somewhere in the bushes, it would hardly result in something more than demand to put something on. "I'm a naturist, I hate wearing bath suits, we must be closer to the nature, yes, I like to get muddy, mud is good for skin." We don't speak about someone walking commando down an alley in a park between a children playground and a kiosk with ice-cream, right?

[Nessie]

I'm very doubt that in my country anyone can meet any policemen outside of a populated area.

Actually, the "Figure Of Authority" you would be likeliest to meet in an uncivilized area is either a ranger (park ranger, forest ranger) or Park Patrol. Park Patrol are officers specifically assigned to public parks, but you rarely see one in the wild untamed wilderness. They are mostly on paved trails, in parking lots, and hanging around the picnic or swim areas. They issue parking tickets...confiscate strong beer if the park prohibits it...stuff like that.

The more wild the area, the less likely you are to encounter any authority at all. I have yet to see a ranger of any kind at Poison Sumac Bog, which is inside a wildlife management area. I'm sure they show up for hunting season but all hunting is prohibited in the summer there and they don't even mow the trails, much less keep an eye on anything.

The likeliest scenario by which you would meet a regular cop in the wilderness is if you are trespassing and somebody has seen you jump the fence...or wonders about your car that's parked just too weirdly...so they reported it. They'll go in if that happens.

There was a sheriff who parked in the dirt parking lot of Poison Sumac Bog occasionally over the weekend during Sinking Season 2009 but I never once saw him leave his car and enter any actual wilderness. I don't actually think he was working. He was never there for more than half an hour and I suspect that he probably only taking a break.

Nessie

[LordMuck]

There's a golden rule:
Be nice.
Most, if not all police officers couldn't give a monkeys what you do in the great outdoors, as long as you don't endanger yourself or others.
They do a horrible job for not a great deal of money; most of the citizens they come in contact with,
(a) shout abuse,
(b) scream for a lawyer,
(c) become physically violent,
(d) all of the above.
So give him/her a break. Acting like an adult and treating them with the same respect you'd give to anybody works wonders. So does- if it comes to it- Telling the truth.
"Right, constable I gotta be honest: My girlfriend and I watched this jungle movie the other night and.... "
Speaking as a brutal, obnoxious libertarian git- I see no contradiction in this: Police officers are like the sheepdogs: They stand between the sheep and the wolves.
As far as I know, there is no free nation that forbids its citizens to get excited by allegedly bottomless mud. So, by definition, you start out innocent in the first place.
And most poilce officers I know have better things to do than lifting the innocent, however kinky they may be.
(Not that they can talk- Ever been to a police wedding? There are always twelve books, no more no less, on the shelves- And one-quarter of them will always be Bravo Two Zero, The Joy Of Sex, and Neo-Fascism For People Who Like Kenneth More War Movies; I might have made the last one up. But Bravo Two Zero will be the only one that's ever read. And I'm not making that bit up).

[Duncan Edwards]

There's a golden rule:
Be nice.

Exactly. It hasn't failed me yet no matter who I was dealing with.

I guess my take on this is different since I am definitely a "looker" and not a "doer". The only exceptions are those occasions when a like minded female playmate is there to actively participate. Beyond those very rare moments I am always going to be the one with mud covered photo gear playing the role of sensitive artist or some such nonsense. I'm not going to have to deal with my own personal fun being invaded and questioned. I certainly won't be the guy who is neck deep in the dried up pond the next morning. Possibly it is easier for me to feel more in control of my situation instead of literally being caught with my pants down.

I originally wanted to be a photojournalist and they have a rule that was taught to me by the chief photographer of the local paper a long time ago. Basically you go where you want regardless of what is in your way until someone makes you leave. For a guy who is pretty much Mr. Law-and-order this was kind of hard to take at first but I learned how to apply it. I also learned how to avoid or deal with the trouble that might result and it applies well to what we are discussing here.