OTR-21 Tochka/SS-21 Scarab

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OTR-21 Tochka/SS-21 Scarab

Postby kham » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:31 pm

From over at Brad's

We have been getting some interesting vid lately which not that long ago would have gotten you killed over :)

Start missiles OTR-21 Tochka (SS-21 Scarab) Ukrainian army Somewhere in eastern Ukraine

Ummm.. Ok, so there's a reason you stand Way Back Here before pressing that launch-enable button..... :P

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Re: OTR-21 Tochka/SS-21 Scarab

Postby Billie Bonce » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:33 pm

There is horrible number of fake videos which both sides of the conflict attempt to use in own propaganda. Ukrainian officials never acknowledged use of Tocka-U in eastern Ukraine, while Russian propaganda often screams about it. I have never heard (even listening to our propaganda) that the separatists ever had own Tochka, It is absolutely unknown when and where both those videos were shot, and who fires in whose direction. At the first video we can hear some voices, they speak on Russian-Ukrainian mix with eastern Ukrainian accent (they are not the Russians for sure, but they can belong to any of the sides of the conflict, and also the voices could be superimposed on the video). The second video was posted in spring 2015, so it could be taken not later than autumn 2014. And actually it could be taken anywhere.

A good example of fake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3N9WLulBkI
It is titled "Su-24 of Ukrainian air force in Donetsk region". It was reposted many times, and commented by many people.
In fact, the aircraft has no marking of Ukrainian AF; while the license plates of the vehicles on the road are blurred, it is not hard to notice that they all are Russian, not Ukrainian, and finally, the people behind the camera are speaking Russian with Russian pronunciation, Ukrainians in any region of Ukraine speak Russian another way. The video was taken in Russia, and was faked, possibly to demonstrate how deceitful Ukrainian propaganda is.
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