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Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:45 pm
by kham
What's Greek for "hold my beer and watch this!" ?
Take more 'n two coats of paint...And they both survived. Although I am uncertain they would think that was such a good thing....

Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:52 pm
by PM2K
kham wrote:What's Greek for "hold my beer and watch this!" ?
Take more 'n two coats of paint...And they both survived. Although I am uncertain they would think that was such a good thing....

"That's coming out of your paycheque, soldier!"
Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:50 pm
by Tim Kelly
In the words of Stavros (Harry Enfield);
"Hello, everybody peeps.....AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!"
Or as Colonel Cochrane (Malcolm McDowall) said in "Blue Thunder":
"You can't loop the loop in a chopper, it's aerodynamically impossible".
Although later, he said,
"THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!.....AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!"
Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:39 pm
by kham
I think this one, be more like
Pilot: "Well, what do we do now??"
Nose Gunner: "Who's this WE, motherfucker??"

Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:34 pm
by nachtjaeger
Ouch. I have wondered at the purpose of flying a rotorcraft in that manner.
Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:39 pm
by kham
It's not a unique thing , either
This video from 2012 shows a US Army Apache also hotdogging it in snowy Afghanistan, with even more spectacular results. Having young guys and hot flying machines can result in impared judgement

Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:19 pm
by nachtjaeger
I don't know if I mentioned this before- I have also wondered if the early crashes of the V-22 Osprey were caused by pilots trying to flare a landing in an aircraft that has way too low a mass/lift ratio to do that successfully.
kham wrote:It's not a unique thing , either
This video from 2012 shows a US Army Apache also hotdogging it in snowy Afghanistan, with even more spectacular results. Having young guys and hot flying machines can result in impared judgement

Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:05 pm
by kham
Hardware problems
Software problems
And a system being pushed way to hard to be operationally when was nowhere near out of the T&E phase
Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:52 am
by Chimerix
nachtjaeger wrote:I don't know if I mentioned this before- I have also wondered if the early crashes of the V-22 Osprey were caused by pilots trying to flare a landing in an aircraft that has way too low a mass/lift ratio to do that successfully.
Nope.
It's a rare thing, but in this case, 100% of the Osprey crashes to date have been failure of the aircraft, not of the pilot. Some of them make for really sad reading.
Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:27 pm
by nachtjaeger
Thanks for setting me straight on that.