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Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:40 pm
by kham
Is Planet Nine Tilting The Sun?
Aside from the burning desire to punch the author in the throat with brass knuckles... :twisted: (There already ARE nine planets, you fuckwit!...) I am always a bit leery of stuff that gets vague, especially from "scientists". Especially when they start throwing numbers at you that are not precise. Now, colour me suspicious, but when ASTRONOMERS start doing that, it is a bit like the fella in 'The Martian' puts it: physicists, when describing speed, don't, ever, use terms like 'really really fast! fastest man ever!!' unless they trying to deflect you from asking, WHAT is the fucking g-force gonna be?! And how many km/s with the fucking front of my ship open like a fucking 68 Camaro?? :twisted:

It tends to cover up, that pressing them, would be inconvenient. Since it's likely their data is shoddy, or spotty, or just plain guesses.
Gee. Causes that much of a wobble ? With only 10-earth masses? Seems off there. And orbiting how far? Some math (they can look it up...) shows their own estimate is around 0.01 LIGHT-YEARS. Or, 83.1 light-hours. or, to boot them in the face, 89,758,722,414 km
Plus or minus. 600 AUs. Call me when you have imagery

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:41 am
by Fred588
The demoted Pluto, which leaves eight.

kham wrote:Is Planet Nine Tilting The Sun?
Aside from the burning desire to punch the author in the throat with brass knuckles... :twisted: (There already ARE nine planets, you fuckwit!...) I am always a bit leery of stuff that gets vague, especially from "scientists". Especially when they start throwing numbers at you that are not precise. Now, colour me suspicious, but when ASTRONOMERS start doing that, it is a bit like the fella in 'The Martian' puts it: physicists, when describing speed, don't, ever, use terms like 'really really fast! fastest man ever!!' unless they trying to deflect you from asking, WHAT is the fucking g-force gonna be?! And how many km/s with the fucking front of my ship open like a fucking 68 Camaro?? :twisted:

It tends to cover up, that pressing them, would be inconvenient. Since it's likely their data is shoddy, or spotty, or just plain guesses.
Gee. Causes that much of a wobble ? With only 10-earth masses? Seems off there. And orbiting how far? Some math (they can look it up...) shows their own estimate is around 0.01 LIGHT-YEARS. Or, 83.1 light-hours. or, to boot them in the face, 89,758,722,414 km
Plus or minus. 600 AUs. Call me when you have imagery

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:48 pm
by Duncan Edwards
Fred588 wrote:The demoted Pluto, which leaves eight.


Correct. Real astronomers now refer to Pluto as a "dwarf planet" unworthy of being numbered among the others. We know now that it is actually the innermost Kuiper belt object and has a lot of company out there. There's a lot of math pointing to an actual ninth planet which may be quiet massive but so far out that it's going to be difficult to find. I expect you will be hearing a lot about it over the next few years.

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:19 pm
by Fred588
This will not be the first time that the existence of a planet was predicted by the prior discovery of an orbital wobble. Neptune was predicted in that manner before it was found. suspect it will eventually be found by using the "wobble" to calculate where its location ought to be. That, of course, could be enormously complicated by the possible presence of more planets.

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:03 pm
by nachtjaeger
A previously unknown planet, with a weird orbit? Let's send a probe there immediately, manned if possible! Because that always works out well in the books and movies. :shock:

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:11 pm
by nachtjaeger
Thanks to Sherlock Holmes throwing Professor Moriarty into the Richenbach Falls, we lost the ranking expert on orbital mechanics. ;)

There is a pastiche/fan fiction Holmes story where we find out SPOILER ALERT that, prior to his death, Moriarty took steps to lure Holmes and Watson to a certain location in Siberia on July 30 1908. :twisted:

Fred588 wrote:This will not be the first time that the existence of a planet was predicted by the prior discovery of an orbital wobble. Neptune was predicted in that manner before it was found. suspect it will eventually be found by using the "wobble" to calculate where its location ought to be. That, of course, could be enormously complicated by the possible presence of more planets.

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:28 pm
by Duncan Edwards
nachtjaeger wrote:Thanks to Sherlock Holmes throwing Professor Moriarty into the Richenbach Falls, we lost the ranking expert on orbital mechanics. ;)

There is a pastiche/fan fiction Holmes story where we find out SPOILER ALERT that, prior to his death, Moriarty took steps to lure Holmes and Watson to a certain location in Siberia on July 30 1908. :twisted:

Fred588 wrote:This will not be the first time that the existence of a planet was predicted by the prior discovery of an orbital wobble. Neptune was predicted in that manner before it was found. suspect it will eventually be found by using the "wobble" to calculate where its location ought to be. That, of course, could be enormously complicated by the possible presence of more planets.


Ever think about how different the world would be if that thing had hit London? New York? Moscow? Paris? Tokyo? Instead of one of the most desolate places on Earth? Maybe next time it hits the middle of the Pacific or maybe it hits...

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:37 pm
by Mynock
I'd prefer a water impact. Less shit gets blown into the air (unless it's huge and then we're all screwed anyway) and I live on top of a mountain so surfs up. :twisted:

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:18 am
by Boggy Man
Mynock wrote:I'd prefer a water impact. Less shit gets blown into the air (unless it's huge and then we're all screwed anyway) and I live on top of a mountain so surfs up. :twisted:


Here is a simulation of a huge asteroid hitting earth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1QPtOZQZU

Re: Ah those Whacky Astronomers....

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:12 am
by Mynock
Well yea, if it's big enought to have actually formed into a sphere we're definitely all fucked lol. We're talking "Tunguska", not not "bend over and grab your ankles". :)