Probably Not Good

[Fred588]

This is probably not so good but quite a few small trees around here are ALREADY putting out new leaves. They should not be doing this for more that a month yet.

[joedeep130535]

It could be blamed on global warming-but then the UK is having its coldest winter for about 5 years!!

[Mynock]

Sunday it was 50F and damp. Today I wake up and it's 31F with an inch of snow and half an inch of ice on the ground......we are living in interesting times.

[MadMax359]

It could be blamed on global warming-but then the UK is having its coldest winter for about 5 years!!

that's why it's Climate Change... higher highs, lower lows, and 3 years in a row set the overall record for Hottest Year

[Mynock]

This has definitely been the warmest January I can remember. Everything that should be snow is just rain. On the plus side I've only burned half the heating oil I normally do. Wonder if anyone's thought about it from that angle.....overall higher temps mean we're going to consume a lot less energy trying to stay warm, which means less pollution.

[Fred588]

This has definitely been the warmest January I can remember. Everything that should be snow is just rain. On the plus side I've only burned half the heating oil I normally do. Wonder if anyone's thought about it from that angle.....overall higher temps mean we're going to consume a lot less energy trying to stay warm, which means less pollution.

Well yes, but probably more for AC in the summer.

[Mynock]

Geo thermal........if I only had the money.......my parents are heating and cooling their house for an average of $700......a YEAR.

[Fred588]

Bear in mind that the 700.00 figure you quote probably does not include amortization of the investment required to install the system.

Geo thermal........if I only had the money.......my parents are heating and cooling their house for an average of $700......a YEAR.

[Mynock]

That is the icky part.......initial investment in all the wells, pumps, ductwork, etc. Is probably the highest of any HVAC system, basically it's the cost of a decent new car. The newer systems out there now can last 30 years with proper maintenance though, so you're enjoying practically free heat/ac long after you paid the "car" off.

[Fred588]

Personally, I am holding out for a grid-connected solar system. By that I mean enough solar panels to supply 100 percent of my need when the sun is shining and connected so the grid can do the rest. Today the price for that is still too high but it seems to be coming down. Given my age I am not certain I will actually invest in such a system but I do have plenty of space for the panels.

That is the icky part.......initial investment in all the wells, pumps, ductwork, etc. Is probably the highest of any HVAC system, basically it's the cost of a decent new car. The newer systems out there now can last 30 years with proper maintenance though, so you're enjoying practically free heat/ac long after you paid the "car" off.