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Probably Not Good
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:10 pm
by Fred588
This is probably not so good but quite a few small trees around here are ALREADY putting out new leaves. They should not be doing this for more that a month yet.
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:25 pm
by joedeep130535
It could be blamed on global warming-but then the UK is having its coldest winter for about 5 years!!
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:28 pm
by Mynock
Sunday it was 50F and damp. Today I wake up and it's 31F with an inch of snow and half an inch of ice on the ground......we are living in interesting times.

Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:17 am
by MadMax359
joedeep130535 wrote:It could be blamed on global warming-but then the UK is having its coldest winter for about 5 years!!
that's why it's Climate Change... higher highs, lower lows, and 3 years in a row set the overall record for Hottest Year
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:10 am
by Mynock
This has definitely been the warmest January I can remember. Everything that should be snow is just rain. On the plus side I've only burned half the heating oil I normally do. Wonder if anyone's thought about it from that angle.....overall higher temps mean we're going to consume a lot less energy trying to stay warm, which means less pollution.
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:50 am
by Fred588
Mynock wrote:This has definitely been the warmest January I can remember. Everything that should be snow is just rain. On the plus side I've only burned half the heating oil I normally do. Wonder if anyone's thought about it from that angle.....overall higher temps mean we're going to consume a lot less energy trying to stay warm, which means less pollution.
Well yes, but probably more for AC in the summer.
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:31 am
by Mynock
Geo thermal........if I only had the money.......my parents are heating and cooling their house for an average of $700......a YEAR.
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:57 am
by Fred588
Bear in mind that the 700.00 figure you quote probably does not include amortization of the investment required to install the system.
Mynock wrote:Geo thermal........if I only had the money.......my parents are heating and cooling their house for an average of $700......a YEAR.
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:39 am
by Mynock
That is the icky part.......initial investment in all the wells, pumps, ductwork, etc. Is probably the highest of any HVAC system, basically it's the cost of a decent new car. The newer systems out there now can last 30 years with proper maintenance though, so you're enjoying practically free heat/ac long after you paid the "car" off.
Re: Probably Not Good
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:12 pm
by Fred588
Personally, I am holding out for a grid-connected solar system. By that I mean enough solar panels to supply 100 percent of my need when the sun is shining and connected so the grid can do the rest. Today the price for that is still too high but it seems to be coming down. Given my age I am not certain I will actually invest in such a system but I do have plenty of space for the panels.
Mynock wrote:That is the icky part.......initial investment in all the wells, pumps, ductwork, etc. Is probably the highest of any HVAC system, basically it's the cost of a decent new car. The newer systems out there now can last 30 years with proper maintenance though, so you're enjoying practically free heat/ac long after you paid the "car" off.