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Does anyone else get pissed off by them?

OBI-wan wrote:Does anyone else get pissed off by them?

I might but I don't know what you're referring to.

Duncan Edwards wrote:

OBI-wan wrote:Does anyone else get pissed off by them?

I might but I don't know what you're referring to.

If he's referring to things that you shouldn't say to your wife, it's still a work in progress for me.

dlodoski wrote:

Duncan Edwards wrote:

OBI-wan wrote:Does anyone else get pissed off by them?

I might but I don't know what you're referring to.

If he's referring to things that you shouldn't say to your wife, it's still a work in progress for me.

Duncan and Dave - yeah, I am also wondering where this thread is aimed.

Safety filters in ai unless you pay or some other stupid reason

OBI-wan wrote:Safety filters in ai unless you pay or some other stupid reason

Oh, yeah. Pisses me a off a lot. Most of the them are puritanical even if you pay and I have paid membership at several. I can get things past Magespace.com but that may change. Many are now using AI to determine what you are creating. I might as well be blind as to be denied bare skin.

OBI-wan wrote:Does anyone else get pissed off by them?

I Googled "Safety Filter" and I can't object to anything that keeps air cleaner.

But if I'm on Google, I guess I mostly don't notice them unless they impede the actual search I've made, in which case, I usually thought I turned the safety thing off long ago, but it somehow turned itself back on.

That annoys me -- that it just takes it upon itself to change that when I am not paying attention.

As for AI, I haven't dabbled in it much. But I'm kind of disgusted with Deepai.com. The first thing I did with that was type "furry dog face" and it was blocked.

I meant dogs. Actual, four-legged, furry dogs.

Nessie

Duncan Edwards wrote:....Many are now using AI to determine what you are creating.....

Nessie wrote: I'm kind of disgusted with Deepai.com. The first thing I did with that was type "furry dog face" and it was blocked.

I meant dogs. Actual, four-legged, furry dogs.....

Sounds like the whole thing is turning into a dog chasing it's own tail.

Keeping in mind that I know nothing about AI, here is my take on it:

First, any company must find some way to monetize what it produces to stay in business. For the most part, two ways to monetize a software product are 1) sales to the end user or 2) licensing to the end user. The trend in recent years is toward licensing.

Second, companies are allergic to things that generate criticism or liability.

In the case of software for generating something with a high potential for criticism or liability (or both) there is a built-in conflict between some forms of monetization and risk. When a licensing arrangement ALSO involves the software being used on-line, the company offering the product is involved in what is produced by the software. Thus, the company feels a need to try to control what it's product is used for. It is my prediction that this kind of business model will eventually fail due to this conflict in any case where the principle use of the software is controversial.

Third, when a software product is new in concept the easiest way to develop market share is to make it available free. This, however, is by itself not compatible with monetization. Strategies have historically involved free versions with very limited capabilities. More often than not these strategies fail because the majority of end uses never make the jump to the paid version.

If I were an investor in a company making this kind of product, my strategy would be to go back to the simpler model of simply selling the whole product to whomever wanted to buy it, absolving myself of the direct criticism or liability, so long as there were arguably "legitimate" applications of the product.

That is my take, but what do I know?

Fred588 wrote:...product to whomever wanted to buy it, absolving myself of the direct criticism or liability, so long as there were arguably "legitimate" applications of the product.

And herein lies one of the great complications. The whole thing is basically driven by public domain engines using the entire internet as a source/database. Virtually all of these sites are just front ends, graphic interfaces, for processes they don't even own. The filters they use are just to keep things straight with the credit card companies. Ultimately I'll have a very big box of my own running open source AI and won't have to deal with this. If only someone could sell me some time...