Quicksand Fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGrG3NpsvaU I dig those calm facial expressions

Damn.....those guys are hard core. Cold enough to see your breath and you're in swamp water up to your chest....lol.

Love Russian women! Pretty AND tough! I about had a heart attack when the water came up to her chin, but she seemed totally cool with it.

Billie, what is the Russian word for "redneck"?

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nachtjaeger wrote:Billie, what is the Russian word for "redneck"?

Ridiculously, we don't have adequate equivalent to it.

The equivalent in some situations would be жлоб (zhlob), plural жлобы (zhloby) or, as a category - жлобьё (zhlobyo). When I was a schoolboy (30+ years ago) we used this word in this meaning. But this word has definitely negative scent and normally can't be used in friendly manner. Also, the word has also a meaning 'a greedy man (greedy men)' - mostly in Ukraine. In Russia (but not in Ukraine) this word also means 'big, strong man', and may have no meaning of 'redneck'. Another word, that came to us from Russia, is гопник (gopnick) - plural гопники (gopniki), and as a category - гопота (gopota) - the last mostly usable in Ukraine. Again, no friendly meaning - it means mostly physically strong rural (or suburban) guys who arrive to cities and molest (often rough up and rob) local youth.

bart1997 wrote:Now that's a girl with the right spirit!!

And honestly I don't know is she tough or stupid In the comments guys had written her, 'You are cool, but in future never forget to unbuckle the seat belts before water obstacles'

bart1997 wrote:Great find Billie

Thank you! Actually, a girl from Ukraine sent me this link by PM at deviantART with words 'A video that you may like'. Credit goes to her

Billie Bonce wrote:

nachtjaeger wrote:Billie, what is the Russian word for "redneck"?

Ridiculously, we don't have adequate equivalent to it.

That's very interesting. Hailing from virtually the absolute point of origin of the term I have found "redneck" personalities all over the world. One place I truly expected to find a word that defines the type was in areas of the former Soviet Union. I guess it could be that it is such a garden spot for unrefined working man types who revel excessively in the simple pleasures that there is no need for a specific designation.

Here we call such a woman - Kristine

And I love the video.

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Lucky Raccoon......

I suppose I should offer an explanation and origin for the term "redneck." It has often been used as a pejorative, to describe people who are rough, earthy, uneducated, and crude. In this sense it is almost like the Russian term некультурный (transliteration nekul'turnyy). But folks from the Southern Appalachian Mountains (and elsewhere) continue to use it to self-identify, and even take pride in the designation.

There are a number of legends as to how the term originated. A common one is that it signifies a farmer, whose occupation causes his neck to become sunburned. Fine, except farmers tended to wear broad-brimmed hats back in the day. My favorite legend is as follows:

During the Revolutionary War, the "Over-mountain Men" who had settled West of the Appalachians, were ready to fight if the British attacked them. But they weren't about to leave their wives and children unprotected from Indian attack, so they stuck close to home rather than joining the Continental Army. In early 1780, Gen. Henry Clinton (the British CinC) ordered Lord Cornwalis to bring the South Carolina and Georgia backcountry under British control. When word of the invasion spread, the locals prepared to fight Next came news of the Battle of Waxhaws (AKA the Waxhaws Massacre) where Lt. Col. Banastre Tarelton's troops refused to accept a flag of surrender and proceeded to bayonet the wounded for 15 minutes after the shooting stopped. Now even the Over-mountain Men were ready to fight! The quickly assembled force consisted of volunteers and militia, who mostly lacked uniforms and often dressed in buckskin and homespun. There were loyalist militiamen on the British side, and with a number of folks changing sides also, it was decided they needed a method to tell friend from foe. The solution? Red bandannas, worn around the throat. Hence the term "redneck."
Anyway, British Maj. Patrick Ferguson and his Loyalist militiamen invaded the mountain country. Upon hearing that a large force of Patriot militia was in the area, instead of retreating towards friendly forces, he encamped his men on King's Mountain. He wasn't worried about "being pissed upon by a set of mongrels" (his words). He also stated that "Only God could dislodge him from that mountain." Well, God hasn't done so- Ferguson is still there. The battle lasted less than an hour. The "mongrels" were expert riflemen and battle-tested, as they both hunted their food and fought their Indian neighbors. That battle was the turning point of the British Southern Campaign, and eventually led to Cornwalis's surrender at Yorktown in 1781, effectively ending the war.

Duncan Edwards wrote:That's very interesting. Hailing from virtually the absolute point of origin of the term I have found "redneck" personalities all over the world. One place I truly expected to find a word that defines the type was in areas of the former Soviet Union. I guess it could be that it is such a garden spot for unrefined working man types who revel excessively in the simple pleasures that there is no need for a specific designation.

I guess you are right. We have a lot of rednecks, but no such nice word. In addition to the words that I mentioned above, there is another word with the meaning similar to 'rednecks' - быдло (bydlo) what means 'livestock' in Polish. That's how Polish nobles were contemptuously calling Ukrainian peasants and cossacks. Now we use it to blame people for rudeness and boorish behavior. Also, it may be used to describe ignorance and narrow-mindedness. Say, 'bydlo-coder' is a traditional designation of bad programmers who produce bad code and get very good money for their bad work.

As the result of the Great October Socialist Revolution of 1917, the bydlo became the ruling class in Soviet Russia (then - in the Soviet Union), and effectively exterminated nobles. However, there was another small group of people that always opposed the bydlo - so called 'интеллигенция' - reads 'intelligentsia', but has nothing in common with the English word 'intelligence'. The intelligentsia are scientists, artists of various arts, teachers, doctors, and the best part of engineers (unfortunately, many other engineers belong to the bydlo). Both Stalin and Hitler hated the intelligentsia and kept it under constant threat of total extermination, but were forced to preserve some part of it to enable development of their respective countries. And so there was another equivalent to 'redneck', used in narrow circles of the intelligentsia - 'proletariy' or 'hegemon'. Because there was a declared 'hegemony' of 'proletariat' - the working class.

nachtjaeger wrote:I suppose I should offer an explanation and origin for the term "redneck." It has often been used as a pejorative, to describe people who are rough, earthy, uneducated, and crude. In this sense it is almost like the Russian term некультурный (transliteration nekul'turnyy). But folks from the Southern Appalachian Mountains (and elsewhere) continue to use it to self-identify, and even take pride in the designation.

Thank you! Well, it seems I was right about the equivalents. But none of them is used as self-designation.