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Question for those who make manips

Postby Fred588 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:59 pm

I have a question for those here who create manips. I am going to attempt to systematically create a set (or sets) of backgrounds for others to use in making manips. These will be done using miniature sets. Each image will include a sort of mud pit surrounded by drier mud, and dry land. There will be a greenscreen behind the pit. A set of images will consist of still shots from different angles and different few. My question deals with the angles (or elevation of the camera relative to the ground. I have two cameras to use. One is a very nice quality still camera and the other is a 4k video camera. If I use the still camera I will take pictures from three different elevations, probably one near ground level, one at about 20 degrees, and one at 30 or so degrees. Each image would be a little more than 6000 pixels wide. If I use the video camera, then I would use the tripod to elevate the camera while it is rolling. This would produce a much greater range of elevations, but the resolution would be less. There would almost certainly be some differences in the depth of field.

My question is which approach would be better for those who might use them?
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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby duuudeization » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:44 pm

I keep a stockpile of images of varying degrees, angles, and resolutions, and I'm always looking for more . So in my case I would adapt things on my end to your background, so either is good as far as I'm concerned
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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby duuudeization » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:44 pm

And thank you for making such available!
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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby redjak6t4 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:06 pm

This is a wonderful gesture, Fred.

Personally I'm in a bit of a post-Covid slump and can't summon up the enthusiasm to make any new manips.

But your news is very welcome and could be the stimulus I need.

As to preferences, I always try to work with backgrounds and foregrounds (the victim) with as high a resolution as possible.

The angle is less important because I use 'found' images for the foreground and these come in all different kind of angles.

Half the battle is matching up the angles between the fore and background.

Usually I can 'massage' the lighting, colour balance and other stuff.

Does that help?


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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby Fred588 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:24 pm

redjak6t4 wrote:This is a wonderful gesture, Fred.

Personally I'm in a bit of a post-Covid slump and can't summon up the enthusiasm to make any new manips.

But your news is very welcome and could be the stimulus I need.

As to preferences, I always try to work with backgrounds and foregrounds (the victim) with as high a resolution as possible.

The angle is less important because I use 'found' images for the foreground and these come in all different kind of angles.

Half the battle is matching up the angles between the fore and background.

Usually I can 'massage' the lighting, colour balance and other stuff.

Does that help?


Redjak.


Of course. What I am attempting to produce is a sort of "stage" consisting of a "dried mud" area enclosing a sort of depressed area that can hold a real liquid without leaking. The stage will be placed on a level surface in front of a green panel. That part is finished. To fill the depressed area, I plan to experiment with various thick or viscous liquids that can be colored and made opaque. I may try a slurry of cooked corn starch, a sugar syrup, or something else with some pigment. By doing this I should be able to make several different colors of mud, even black for tar. With the whole thing set on a convenient surface, I have a small collection of objects that can be added, such as pieces of thin wood stock (to be a platform or boardwalk, some rocks, peeled branches (to be fallen trees), and one or two statuettes. as props.I am leaning toward use of a still camera on a tripod that can be easily elevated to make different angles. And finally, the green panel can be left where it is while the stage is rotated. I will probably take pictures from three angles (vertically) and at least four (horizontally) for a total of 12 for each combination of the props.
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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby redjak6t4 » Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:09 pm

That sounds great, Fred.

But a question comes to mind.

What's your policy when it comes to giving credit to the person who provided the background?

Would you prefer your logo to remain within the completed qs manip?

Or is it sufficient that you are credited in an accompanying text that goes outside of the image?

Please advise and I'll surely do as you'd like.

Thank you,

Redjak.

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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby Fred588 » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:44 pm

redjak6t4 wrote:That sounds great, Fred.

But a question comes to mind.

What's your policy when it comes to giving credit to the person who provided the background?

Would you prefer your logo to remain within the completed qs manip?

Or is it sufficient that you are credited in an accompanying text that goes outside of the image?

Please advise and I'll surely do as you'd like.

Thank you,

Redjak.


Somewhere on the face of the final image should be written "Background copyright Studio 588, followed by the year. This can be in very small type so long as it is readable. I leave it to the person doing the manip to determine the location so it does not fall in a critical location. The text could also say "portions of the background" if that reflects the truth (as would be the case when the green background is changed to something else.
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http://studio588qs.com
http://quicksandland.com
http://psychicworldjungleland.com

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Re: Question for those who make manips

Postby redjak6t4 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:43 pm

Ok Fred,

That sounds entirely reasonable and easily doable.

Thank you,

Redjak.


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