Another waders request

[fightingfish]

for me this is the perfect outift a girl should wear while she is going under in quicksand



any producer going to shoot videos like that? would be so awesome!

[Duncan Edwards]

for me this is the perfect outift a girl should wear while she is going under in quicksand



any producer going to shoot videos like that? would be so awesome!

If enough people voiced a desire for it I'm sure they would. Adding a specific example like a photo is a great idea as well.

[Fred588]

for me this is the perfect outift a girl should wear while she is going under in quicksand



any producer going to shoot videos like that? would be so awesome!

The photo clarifies a point that was, I think, actually made in your original but that I think I pretty much missed. That is, what you mean by "waders." Boots of the height shown is no problem at all safety-wise. To me, "waders" is an abbreviation for hip-waders or chest-waders, which are considerably more of an issue.

[bart1997]

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[fightingfish]

sure, but the imagination, that they are sinking with boots on is exciting

[101927700]

I think an interesting thing to do would be, once the model gets in the chest waders, there could be a waterproof black fabric layer that seals off the bottom of the chest waders, so the waders could appear to fill with mud, but actually only be filled slightly. Why black fabric? So you can't tell the fabric is there.

Visual of my idea:

[Fred588]

This may be an example of why actual experimentation is needed for ideas. I could be wrong, as I have not done the experimentation either, but I strongly suspect one would discover that the fabric does not work because it is not sealed around the performer's body, and probably cannot be so sealed. Further, if it DID succeed in keeping the mud in the top part of the waders I believe the result would be the addition of a LOT of weight that would be difficult to remove when its time to get out unless the performer had something to stand on so as to lift it a bit, squeeze out the mud, lift a bit more, and so on.

[101927700]

Maybe the fabric could be like an inch or two from the top, so not much mud can get in.

[bart1997]

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[Fred588]

Bart has a very valid point here, I think.

I believe what I would do from a producer's point of view, would be to obtain a somewhat oversized set of waders, slit them from top to near bottom (which would render them useless as actual waders) and then glue some Velcro into them so they could have the appearance of being intact but actually be very easy to open while in the mud. Once a scene was concluded the model could simply rip open the Velcro and be out of the waders. They'd still have to be hauled out but they could be inverted to do this. If someone is willing to provide the sacrificial waders for this I would attempt it next summer.

I doubt this will work.
Don't you then create a large air-filled bubble that has to be pushed down under the surface? And as far as i understand your picture there is a high risk that the model would turn upside down suddenly.

Fred and i did discuss this topic, too. And as far as my experience tells, it should be perfectly safe and easy for models to wear chestwaders in the watery kind of pits. The waders would just slowly fill up with water and mud and even swimming around or going under or whatever the story says is just as easy as with any other kind of garment. Going all the way under and plopping back to the surface is no problem!!

The thing that is difficult is lifting those water-filled waders above the surface. Lets say, she's wearing chest waders that reach just below her armpits (the TALL kind ):
Model is a fisher-woman that falls in the mud-bog, sinks slowly to her doom, end of story. Rising up again is no problem as long as the now water-filled waders stay (just) below the surface. The mud/water inside is just as heavy as the mud/water outside the waders and there is no force that holds you down (thats a myth!) Gravity just starts working when she wants to climb out of the pit, this would need the help of the crew.

I would suggest trying this out by yourself (Fred?) or your most experienced model in the most watery pit (or even a swimming pool for a start). I would NOT recommend that in the sticky and thick mud-bogs you have. (only for expert sinkers).

There are also not so many true womens-waders available at the market. Over here in Europe there are a few manufacturers that produce more form-fitting chestwaders in youths/womens-sizes. Don't know about the US, though.