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I haven't done much with it because it's pretty expensive, but Mage (mage.space) cherry 2 pro seems to do a very good job with mud, and can do up to 30 seconds. (The image generation on mage.space with Mango 3 does very well too).

This example was done with a pure text prompt.



Unfortunately mage.space subscriptions only allow unlimited generation for very short (4s) videos, otherwise you have to buy gems (their generation credits) to make longer videos, so I'm not sure that subscriptions are worth it unless you're doing huge amounts of image generation.

That's pretty impressive. I've been on Mage for a long time but I've moved away from the image models and haven't touched the video models due to the relative superiority of specialised video models. It seems the video quality is very good especially for the length.

I did a little reading and it looks like all of Mage's fruit models are just fine tunes of existing frontier models. For example I'm pretty sure "Plum" is actually MiniMax H3. Cherry 2 might be either Wan or Seedance, I'm not familiar enough with either of the 30-second models to tell them apart yet.

I don't think Cherry Pro is Wan (at least not 2.7 or 2.6 both of which are not very good at mud). The visuals and movement seem a lot better than Wan 2.5

mjw wrote:I don't think Cherry Pro is Wan (at least not 2.7 or 2.6 both of which are not very good at mud). The visuals and movement seem a lot better than Wan 2.5

Wan 3.0 actually has visuals that are competitive with Seedance 2.5 from what I've seen, but I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet. Both models are currently capable of 30-second clips.