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[MuddyEddie]

Yep, there's not much hope for western society. We are so indoctrinated with too much input from the media, and too little input from good parents. Thank Odin that I grew up in an era where core values were still taught, and kids that "acted up" were quickly placed back under control when the board of education called a meeting with the seat of higher learning!

[Billie Bonce]

Yep, there's not much hope for western society.

You have no idea what's going on in Eastern Europe

Wanna' talk irresponsibility? Here's a great one. Went to the movies last night and had to get up in the middle of it to complain to the manager because someone's 3 year old wouldn't stop yelling that they wanted to go home.

Well, at least you got someone to complain to. Here you'd most likely have either to tolerate this or to leave the theater yourself...