Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

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Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby kham » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:45 pm

What's Greek for "hold my beer and watch this!" ? :lol:

Take more 'n two coats of paint...

And they both survived. Although I am uncertain they would think that was such a good thing.... :twisted:

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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby PM2K » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:52 pm

kham wrote:What's Greek for "hold my beer and watch this!" ? :lol:

Take more 'n two coats of paint...

And they both survived. Although I am uncertain they would think that was such a good thing.... :twisted:


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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby Tim Kelly » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:50 pm

In the words of Stavros (Harry Enfield);
"Hello, everybody peeps.....AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!"
Or as Colonel Cochrane (Malcolm McDowall) said in "Blue Thunder":
"You can't loop the loop in a chopper, it's aerodynamically impossible".
Although later, he said,
"THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!.....AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!"
"Aaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh! Quicksand! I'm sinking! I'll go straight to the bottom of.......GLURP!"
(a month later)
"Ugh! Yukkkh! Ptui! I'm out of it! I'm free! Not even quicksand can defeat the power of.....the Eye of Zoltec!"

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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby kham » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:39 pm

I think this one, be more like

Pilot: "Well, what do we do now??"
Nose Gunner: "Who's this WE, motherfucker??"

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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby nachtjaeger » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:34 pm

Ouch. I have wondered at the purpose of flying a rotorcraft in that manner.
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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby kham » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:39 pm

It's not a unique thing , either

This video from 2012 shows a US Army Apache also hotdogging it in snowy Afghanistan, with even more spectacular results. Having young guys and hot flying machines can result in impared judgement :D

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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby nachtjaeger » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:19 pm

I don't know if I mentioned this before- I have also wondered if the early crashes of the V-22 Osprey were caused by pilots trying to flare a landing in an aircraft that has way too low a mass/lift ratio to do that successfully.

kham wrote:It's not a unique thing , either

This video from 2012 shows a US Army Apache also hotdogging it in snowy Afghanistan, with even more spectacular results. Having young guys and hot flying machines can result in impared judgement :D
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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby kham » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:05 pm

Hardware problems
Software problems
And a system being pushed way to hard to be operationally when was nowhere near out of the T&E phase

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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby Chimerix » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:52 am

nachtjaeger wrote:I don't know if I mentioned this before- I have also wondered if the early crashes of the V-22 Osprey were caused by pilots trying to flare a landing in an aircraft that has way too low a mass/lift ratio to do that successfully.


Nope.

It's a rare thing, but in this case, 100% of the Osprey crashes to date have been failure of the aircraft, not of the pilot. Some of them make for really sad reading.
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Re: Greek AH-64 Apache flathats, crashes

Postby nachtjaeger » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:27 pm

Thanks for setting me straight on that.
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