So, you want to play varsity football?

[kham]

What's worrysome is they only need to get lucky once, and you have HMS Glamorgan. THAT was just an Exocet, and it killed 14 guys. Killing the search radar is one step, but there a lot more, since I am sure you don't need an extensive briefing as to how to get more targeting information. Killing the launchers would be better, but to do THAT would require the use of assets that no one is willing to commit. And depending on the Saudis to do it? Thanks for my chuckle for the day. No need for a stiff drink.

Now the really bad question: what happens when you go up against a Tier-1 opponent? Because they wont be shooting clones of anything, and SS-N-22's are one hell of lot different to engage. As far an LCS goes, they may as well practice their abandon ship drill. Or as some sci fi line goes, "BE somewhere else..."

[dlodoski]

What's worrysome is they only need to get lucky once, and you have HMS Glamorgan. THAT was just an Exocet, and it killed 14 guys. Killing the search radar is one step, but there a lot more, since I am sure you don't need an extensive briefing as to how to get more targeting information. Killing the launchers would be better, but to do THAT would require the use of assets that no one is willing to commit. And depending on the Saudis to do it? Thanks for my chuckle for the day. No need for a stiff drink.

Now the really bad question: what happens when you go up against a Tier-1 opponent? Because they wont be shooting clones of anything, and SS-N-22's are one hell of lot different to engage. As far an LCS goes, they may as well practice their abandon ship drill. Or as some sci fi line goes, "BE somewhere else..."

I don't dispute any of this thinking.

And I don't mean to drag this off-topic, but the LCS situation isn't the problem in mind when you're sitting in your chair, less than 200 miles from Scarborough Shoal. What you want to know is that some Chinese cowboy with the ability to shoot at one of our ships knows that we will likely shoot back. I think our guys are smart enough to not use an aluminum POS to enforce Freedom of Navigation out here.

[kham]

What you want to know is that some Chinese cowboy with the ability to shoot at one of our ships knows that we will likely shoot back. I think our guys are smart enough to not use an aluminum POS to enforce Freedom of Navigation out here.

Therin lies the problem. If things got a little nasty, you do NOT have the time to call 6th fleet and hope Boingo is not stoned watching ESPN... you have seconds to respond, not hours. And with the reduction of most theatre commands to lickspittles who will not blow their nose without calling it in, I do not think you can be assured that that ChiCom cowboy, WONT get a free shot or three at whatever happens to be there.

[kham]

And AGAIN, today. No specifics yet, other than some douchebag gargling about 'employed countermeasures'

Yeah, this will end well

[nachtjaeger]

The Tinfoil Hat crowd is claiming that this whole mess started because the Saudis want to build a natural gas pipeline to Europe, and Russia (for obvious reasons) doesn't want to see that happen. If true, and we end up in the middle of it. . .

And AGAIN, today. No specifics yet, other than some douchebag gargling about 'employed countermeasures'

Yeah, this will end well

[kham]

Considering those fucking retards think George Bush killed more people than Joseph Stalin, I think you can pretty much discard every single fucking thing they think and say. But , the semi-informed crowd is nearly as bad; when I tried to explain, that hunting these units down, would make Scud Hunting EASY, unless you willing to commit the forces on the ground to recon things, and THEN call in air to vaporize them, or take prisoners, or slaughter to the last any survivors, the response was along the lines of just BOMB them. Even what passes for semi-rational, have no grasp of how operations work. Or how weapons work. Or how nukes work. Or likely down to how a fucking roll of toilet paper works. Gen Retard is truly here

[PM2K]

True that... Hunting Scuds looks pretty on TV, but omits the mud and blood of the special forces fellows on the ground who lased the targets, both to make sure the bombs did it right the first time, and to keep down the collateral damage.

Trouble with being too in love with drones is it is all too easy to hit the wrong targets or take out innocents while trying to get the bad guys UNLESS you have someone with eyes and a brain on the ground to verify things before the strike is called. So many problems and tragedies could be avoided if the higher ups just remember that factoid.

[kham]

Considering the basic unit is a prime mover for the missile trailer, and the control vehicle, camoflage for that would not be too hard. Again, it could be done, but you'd for starters need to KILL every fucking vehicle you see, down to and including some fuckwit on a Hot Wheels Tricycle. So don't expect anything. Except the probability of a hit will keep going up with each chance they get

[nachtjaeger]

Check Wikipedia- Iran has designed the launchers for the Noor/Qader missile to look EXACTLY like every other commercial truck on the road, the sorry bastards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qader_(missile)

Considering the basic unit is a prime mover for the missile trailer, and the control vehicle, camoflage for that would not be too hard. Again, it could be done, but you'd for starters need to KILL every fucking vehicle you see, down to and including some fuckwit on a Hot Wheels Tricycle. So don't expect anything. Except the probability of a hit will keep going up with each chance they get

[kham]

Of course they did, that's the point
The proper response, to the goatfuckers, is to EXTERMINATE everything on the roads. And off roads. And any fucking THING with wheels
And, Key Point: DON'T GIVE A FUCK about any screaming and gargling goat cum over it. If you are worried about "how it will look" to a crowd of fucking scum the NAZIS would look sideways at, then you are fucked and have already lost