Looking for a old quicksand site archived by wayback machine.

[msjy]

I am looking for a Quicksand site that I've seen years ago called "why women in quicksand" if anyone knows the web address so I can look it up thanks!

[Mr Mudster]

That would be Duncan Edwards page! He's a valuable contributor here on this site, and probably has access to his old archives that he would likely share, if (as Bob Barker said) "The Price is Right!"

[Duncan Edwards]

Wow...I completely forgot about my own site. How sad is that? Yeah sorry but it's all long gone.

[Boggy Man]

Tracked it down!

https://web.archive.org/web/20040825213307/http://womeninquicksand.cust.nearlyfreespeech.net:80/

[Duncan Edwards]

Tracked it down!

https://web.archive.org/web/20040825213307/http://womeninquicksand.cust.nearlyfreespeech.net:80/

Wow...there's a trip down memory lane. No kidding I'd forgotten about most of this. There was a few years early in the genre where everybody had their own cheap website. After a few years it all consolidated and/or we got places like QSF. Things have improved quite a bit since those days.

[Fred588]

While QSF is certainly a valuable resource I am not so sure that consolidation is beneficial in every respect. It is true that just about anything, within a few guidelines, can be shared here, or at quicksandland or both, there does seem to be a good deal less being created. There are certainly fewer stories and I think there is less artwork in spite of much better software for its creation. I think it is too much of a stretch to say that reduced creativity and consolidation are causally linked, but it is also too much of a stretch to say they are not.

Tracked it down!

https://web.archive.org/web/20040825213307/http://womeninquicksand.cust.nearlyfreespeech.net:80/

Wow...there's a trip down memory lane. No kidding I'd forgotten about most of this. There was a few years early in the genre where everybody had their own cheap website. After a few years it all consolidated and/or we got places like QSF. Things have improved quite a bit since those days.

[Duncan Edwards]

While QSF is certainly a valuable resource I am not so sure that consolidation is beneficial in every respect. It is true that just about anything, within a few guidelines, can be shared here, or at quicksandland or both, there does seem to be a good deal less being created. There are certainly fewer stories and I think there is less artwork in spite of much better software for its creation. I think it is too much of a stretch to say that reduced creativity and consolidation are causally linked, but it is also too much of a stretch to say they are not.

Tracked it down!

https://web.archive.org/web/20040825213307/http://womeninquicksand.cust.nearlyfreespeech.net:80/

Wow...there's a trip down memory lane. No kidding I'd forgotten about most of this. There was a few years early in the genre where everybody had their own cheap website. After a few years it all consolidated and/or we got places like QSF. Things have improved quite a bit since those days.

Understand I'm not saying consolidation is good or bad it's just the path that everyone took. Same thing happened with automobile, computer, aircraft manufacturers, and nearly everything else. It just no longer made sense for me to maintain this crappy little website when there were far better known and supported ways to display things. Beyond that I was a bit more of a freelancer in those days prior to sort of becoming a small part of MPV. "My work" is now all over QSF and other venues but I don't have to mess with getting it out there or paying (much) to create it.

[Nessie]

there does seem to be a good deal less being created.

They're all over at Deviant Art. There's lots and lots of quicksand over there.

I made a page over there myself. The upside is that I control that, and don't have to stick only to quicksand. There are some things that I have there that are off-topic for here (just mainstream nudes) or that I don't think would be appropriate here.

The downside is that I wish that the regular art and fetish art wasn't all together. I am very aware that people who just want regular art are not very thrilled about all the fetish stuff. And there a lot of fetish stuff there -- not just us. Some of it totally isn't my thing, but I'm sure my thing isn't theirs either.

I notice the links to my artwork on Kaol's page from Duncan's are mostly intact. What comforting days those were, to send my artwork to be displayed by someone who was just like me to an audience that was just like me.

Nessie

[Black Clay Lord]

A shame the Wayback Machine isn't perfect. I can't even see the images of Jenna at all.

[dlodoski]

Tracked it down!

https://web.archive.org/web/20040825213307/http://womeninquicksand.cust.nearlyfreespeech.net:80/

Wow...there's a trip down memory lane. No kidding I'd forgotten about most of this. There was a few years early in the genre where everybody had their own cheap website. After a few years it all consolidated and/or we got places like QSF. Things have improved quite a bit since those days.

Memory lane indeed! I doubt I would have been able to recall the look of that site if I tried (or that it existed at all).

And, I agree. Things are much better now. Back in those days, you had to rely on people linking to each other to find your way around (didn't always happen). And it was easy to lose track of where you had already been.

But it's inevitable that there are two schools of thought on this; belonging to those who constructed those early web sites, and those who didn't.