The Art of DemisE

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby quagmire_uk » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:39 am

Wow, great work! I especially like the slime one, even though I should be more of a quicksand fan! Heh.

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby x42swamper » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:09 pm

I love those boots on the first pic. But all of them look fantastic :P
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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby AyaneMatrix » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:02 am

Well, with my current track record with my Poser renders, I'm not too sure how much of what I say will be useful. Just a word of warning.

From what I can see, many of your renders are straight renders with no postwork. To many, that's not entirely a problem, but what I see is a lot of lost potential. For the most part, anything slimy, muddy, or just gross in the case of the cow manure set needs some of the stuff the victim is sinking into to stick to her. I helps for believability, adding suspense, and a much better impression for the finished work. Granted, much of this can be accomplished via texture mods or using addons like particle editing tools that I and a few others have used with Poser, but a decent understanding of Photoshop or GIMP can go a long way to adding depth to a render. And yes, I am aware that many of my works don't have a lot of postwork in them, but you get what I'm referring to.

Oh, and not to nitpick, but a lot of your renders seem to have some low res textures for the backgrounds (ground, grass, muck, and etc.). Replacing many of those textures for the final render helps tremendously in the looks department. Just a thought. ;)

Other than that, I think you have the poses and expressions down right. You just need a bit more to make your pictures have some oomph that they are lacking at the moment.

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby The_Artist_DemisE » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:41 am

AyaneMatrix wrote:Well, with my current track record with my Poser renders, I'm not too sure how much of what I say will be useful. Just a word of warning.

From what I can see, many of your renders are straight renders with no postwork. To many, that's not entirely a problem, but what I see is a lot of lost potential. For the most part, anything slimy, muddy, or just gross in the case of the cow manure set needs some of the stuff the victim is sinking into to stick to her. I helps for believability, adding suspense, and a much better impression for the finished work. Granted, much of this can be accomplished via texture mods or using addons like particle editing tools that I and a few others have used with Poser, but a decent understanding of Photoshop or GIMP can go a long way to adding depth to a render. And yes, I am aware that many of my works don't have a lot of postwork in them, but you get what I'm referring to.

Oh, and not to nitpick, but a lot of your renders seem to have some low res textures for the backgrounds (ground, grass, muck, and etc.). Replacing many of those textures for the final render helps tremendously in the looks department. Just a thought. ;)

Other than that, I think you have the poses and expressions down right. You just need a bit more to make your pictures have some oomph that they are lacking at the moment.


I have to agree with everything said.....I am probably more critical of my work than anyone and all of the points touched on here will be creeping their way into my renders at some point in the future. I just need to get better at using the tools. In that vein...what particle editing tools do you use? Thanks for the input and did you happen to give Dorothys Demise a read? I'm just curious of your thoughts on that one.

Have a great day!

DemisE

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby AyaneMatrix » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:30 am

Some examples can be seen at: Image and Image

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby AyaneMatrix » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:35 am

The_Artist_DemisE wrote:I have to agree with everything said.....I am probably more critical of my work than anyone and all of the points touched on here will be creeping their way into my renders at some point in the future. I just need to get better at using the tools. In that vein...what particle editing tools do you use? Thanks for the input and did you happen to give Dorothys Demise a read? I'm just curious of your thoughts on that one.

Have a great day!

DemisE

I can understand being critical with your works as I'm pretty much the same and it's probably one major reason why I haven't uploaded anything I've worked on lately. :roll:

As for the particle generator, the one I use is Metaform 1.1 on Daz 3D's webstore, by Weird Juice. For the most part, it auto generates a variety of surfaces and you can use it to construct objects from within Poser; though, I've primarily used it to create goo, mud, and other fluids. It's only major flaw is that it has not been updated to work with any recent version of Poser other than 5 and 6; plus, it occasionally refuses to work in some scenes that are too poly dense or if you generate too many particle instances at once. So, it's generally a pain in the butt to use; but, when it works, it makes for some interesting scenes. :geek: Some bad examples of Metaform in action can be seen at my On topic and Off Topic image threads.

Another particle generator that I use is Particles 2 and 3/PZ at Daz 3D which is really good for atmospheric effects (which I sadly haven't done much of), fire, electricity, and others. Takes some getting used to, but it could do wonders for many scenes you've done on your website. Sadly, much of what it can do can also be done as postwork in Photoshop or GIMP. :roll:

As for Dorothy's Demise, the render quality is better than some of your works, as are the textures. It doesn't really seem to be much of a story as it is a slide show that leads to her eventual death and disposal. Then again, when I work on something, I generally have some sort of convoluted story to explain the events leading up to the events pictured. :roll: Also, I'm not into general snuff or gore material; plus, I also have a major barefoot fetish when it comes to women and, as such, its really hard to quantify your works beyond face value. At the same time, I can't say that others aren't interested in your work. So, for the most part, it's really hard for me to say much more than that. :oops:

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby The_Artist_DemisE » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:59 pm

Good info there Ayane. The Metaform product is quite interesting but I'm running Poser Pro 2010 and I also have my original Poser 8 that it was upgraded from. That said I suppose I could track down a Poser 6 and do the goo work in that and then try and import to Pro to finish up but I'd really like to get something that will work intergrated with Pro. I'll have to keep my eyes open. As far as effects go.....I use Photoshop for the post work ( when I do it ) but I haven't really used it to it's full extent because I do these storys that have alot of panels ( comic book like ) and in depth post work on those really consumes alot of time. I do plan to do more one-offs in the future and really go after them in Photoshop for some hopefully eye-poping pics. All things considered I think I've done OK for being a novice - I had no artistic experience what so ever until 9 months ago when I picked up Poser 8 on a whim and gave it a try. It didn't take long for me to get hooked, fall in love with the technology and realize there really was an artist hiding inside me screaming to get out. Ok enough rambling.....thanks again for the frank evaluations and the info....both will be quite useful. :)

Have a wonderfull day!

DemisE

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby Aiko » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:45 am

The_Artist_DemisE wrote:I had no artistic experience what so ever until 9 months ago when I picked up Poser 8 on a whim and gave it a try.


You created all that and the pictures on your site within 9 months of giving Poser a first try? Wow, now I am really impressed. IMO you really are quite talented.

Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing!
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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby Magic Engineer » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:31 pm

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Re: The Art of DemisE

Postby The_Artist_DemisE » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:27 pm

Hi all,
I'm glad some folks find my stuff interesting....thanks for your kind words and suggestions. I do keep notes of comments and suggestions for the future. Not long ago someone asked me about 'chicks in concrete' as a possible peril and as I had done some stuff like that before I decided to do some sets with that in mind. Attached are 5 pics from one of those sets. The premise here is that being a wife or girlfriend of a mob boss is great until it comes time for the breakup. This poor girl was bound, gagged and her waist and hands were tied to the bottom of this trough. The trough was then filled with a loose sandy concrete mix and left to dry. She tried to keep her head above the muck but her neck getting weak coupled with the sucking action of the mix eventually got the best of her. The mix set up in a couple of hours and all that was left was for the 'boys' to come with the forklift and move her to the fishing trawler.
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