Scene where a woman sinks in a grain silo.

[Quicksand-Lover-7]

Link:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=boL1tcawk ... 8gdGVycm9y

Screenshot:

[ghostofmyeyes]

Even though I don't normally care for dry sinking, I love this.

It's really a shame the quicksand fetish community is constantly being outdone by mainstream movies and shows when it comes to scenes of weighty drama and epic betrayals. There is nothing more seductive to me than a situation pregnant with mystery, tension and dread, with quicksand near at hand, ready to dispose of the evidence of foul play, innocent damsels and conniving murderesses alike mysteriously disappearing one by one, lured by tragic, impossible hopes and wishful thinking.

But sure, let's put some more nameless, contextless T and A in the mud with no stakes, very exciting

[dlodoski]

Even though I don't normally care for dry sinking, I love this.

It's really a shame the quicksand fetish community is constantly being outdone by mainstream movies and shows when it comes to scenes of weighty drama and epic betrayals. There is nothing more seductive to me than a situation pregnant with mystery, tension and dread, with quicksand near at hand, ready to dispose of the evidence of foul play, innocent damsels and conniving murderesses alike mysteriously disappearing one by one.

But sure, let's put some more nameless, contextless T and A in the mud with no stakes, very exciting

I'm happy to have done plenty of both ideals you mentioned, and pretty much everything in-between.

[ghostofmyeyes]

I'm happy to have done plenty of both ideals you mentioned, and pretty much everything in-between.

I don't mean to make light of your accomplishments, but most of your (and other video producers') dramas have been distinctly campy. I'm not knocking it, plenty of people seem to enjoy it, and I think the material constraints of running a viable video production business for a niche fetish make it more or less unavoidable.

It's just that it seems like an increasing share of the pictures and stories people share freely, are also not going for complexity or gravitas, even though they aren't bounded by the same constraints. I also get the feeling that we are seeing increasing recursion - quicksand fetish material based off of other quicksand fetish material, in many layers by now, becoming more abstract, more clichéd and less grounded in primal emotions.

So, I find it refreshing when non-fetishists make a scene like this one, where there is clearly lots of unspoken background and context behind the guy's conflicted expression as he resolves to push the girl in, she is clearly set up as a person who would not only be missed, but who would complicate the story by dying, and all the actors play the scene as serious as a heart attack.

[bogbud]

That sinking looks quite weird.
The grain/maize behaves as if it is flowing downward and sucks her down with that flow.

No, I'm not convinced!

[Fred588]

If I may throw in my two cents worth, I think this thread shows at least three things: First, that we all have our own tastes. My dad's expression for this was, "That's why they make strawberry ice cream." Second, that what is produced commercially is what is supported by customers. That is inevitable unless some third party underwrites things. Third, that the nature of a quicksand scene (not to mention everything else) is at least partly in the eye of the viewer.

There are, of course, some solutions to the dilemma. One is to hire a producer to produce what is wanted. Yes, that is expensive The other is to become a producer and make it oneself. That is, obviously, more expensive. And that brings us back to the second point above.

[ghostofmyeyes]

If I may throw in my two cents worth, I think this thread shows at least three things: First, that we all have our own tastes. My dad's expression for this was, "That's why they make strawberry ice cream." Second, that what is produced commercially is what is supported by customers. That is inevitable unless some third party underwrites things. Third, that the nature of a quicksand scene (not to mention everything else) is at least partly in the eye of the viewer.

There are, of course, some solutions to the dilemma. One is to hire a producer to produce what is wanted. Yes, that is expensive The other is to become a producer and make it oneself. That is, obviously, more expensive. And that brings us back to the second point above.

I'm pointing to a trend I see, not just about my personal tastes. And I'm not really commenting about commercial fetish producers, whose constraints we have already covered, but things like stories and drawings people post, which cost them nothing more than time and passion to make.

They are not under the same pressure to always cut to the chase, or to avoid complex emotions and motives and plots that are difficult and expensive to direct and capture on film, but increasingly they do. It's not that there's any lack of creative energy either - people are always coming up with ways to render ever more beautiful women, ever more enticing mires, in their drawings, 3D works, and AI gens; and story writers continue to come up with more vivid ways to describe how the quicksand slurps at the damsel's body. But less and less often do I see that energy going into the setting-up. And the payoff suffers for it.

I guess I've been spoiled by reading old Gothic romances with quicksand as a plot point. The trouble is there aren't very many of them! And yes, I'm working on writing one. It's just going to take me awhile...!

[Fred588]

If I may throw in my two cents worth, I think this thread shows at least three things: First, that we all have our own tastes. My dad's expression for this was, "That's why they make strawberry ice cream." Second, that what is produced commercially is what is supported by customers. That is inevitable unless some third party underwrites things. Third, that the nature of a quicksand scene (not to mention everything else) is at least partly in the eye of the viewer.

There are, of course, some solutions to the dilemma. One is to hire a producer to produce what is wanted. Yes, that is expensive The other is to become a producer and make it oneself. That is, obviously, more expensive. And that brings us back to the second point above.

I'm pointing to a trend I see, not just about my personal tastes. And I'm not really commenting about commercial fetish producers, whose constraints we have already covered, but things like stories and drawings people post, which cost them nothing more than time and passion to make.

They are not under the same pressure to always cut to the chase, or to avoid complex emotions and motives and plots that are difficult and expensive to direct and capture on film, but increasingly they do. It's not that there's any lack of creative energy either - people are always coming up with ways to render ever more beautiful women, ever more enticing mires, in their drawings, 3D works, and AI gens; and story writers continue to come up with more vivid ways to describe how the quicksand slurps at the damsel's body. But less and less often do I see that energy going into the setting-up. And the payoff suffers for it.

I guess I've been spoiled by reading old Gothic romances with quicksand as a plot point. The trouble is there aren't very many of them! And yes, I'm working on writing one. It's just going to take me awhile...!

That is why they make strawberry ice cream. For what it might be worth, on the other hand, my favorite is curry ice cream.

[ghostofmyeyes]

That is why they make strawberry ice cream. For what it might be worth, on the other hand, my favorite is curry ice cream.

What I'm saying is that the QS fetish community isn't making 'strawberry ice cream'. The non-fetishists are the only ones coming close. It wasn't always this way. I just want to be romanced

[dlodoski]

I'm happy to have done plenty of both ideals you mentioned, and pretty much everything in-between.

I don't mean to make light of your accomplishments, but most of your (and other video producers') dramas have been distinctly campy. I'm not knocking it, plenty of people seem to enjoy it, and I think the material constraints of running a viable video production business for a niche fetish make it more or less unavoidable.

It's just that it seems like an increasing share of the pictures and stories people share freely, are also not going for complexity or gravitas, even though they aren't bounded by the same constraints. I also get the feeling that we are seeing increasing recursion - quicksand fetish material based off of other quicksand fetish material, in many layers by now, becoming more abstract, more clichéd and less grounded in primal emotions.

So, I find it refreshing when non-fetishists make a scene like this one, where there is clearly lots of unspoken background and context behind the guy's conflicted expression as he resolves to push the girl in, she is clearly set up as a person who would not only be missed, but who would complicate the story by dying, and all the actors play the scene as serious as a heart attack.

Between this and your more recent post, I think I am understanding where you are coming from. And I appreciate your acknowledgement of the 'constraints' on the community producers.

I think you're right in the conclusion that mainstream scenes will always be more your cup of tea. (As it happens - you're not alone. I know of at least one gentleman for which 'only' mainstream media is interesting). Even when we go fully clothed dramatic, we just don't have the time to get the depth of characters you desire. In fact, it got to the point where I had to add a disclaimer to scene descriptions where the setup even approached 50% of the total run time.

Really, it's Apples and Oranges when it comes to mainstream media and community output. So when you say we're being 'outdone', it's a misnomer, because we're not out to compete with mainstream scenes in this way. It's like straight guys lamenting about too many male scenes and so on. Nothing will change the way things are in these regards. So there is venting. And sometimes there is pushback. That's all this is (you know, the teacup thing).