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Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby PM2K » Sat May 19, 2012 1:10 pm

Know this again has been discussed elsewhere, but I thought there could be benefit to getting feedback on the idea, plus there's always new folks around who may not have had the chance to toss in their two cents in yet.

Before I start, this doesn't mean I'd be expecting such scenes to be filmed. Quite the opposite, in fact. Certain technical realities, such as performer safety being #1, make most of not all of the ideas here pretty well unfilmable. Artists and animators, though... go for it! ;)

Burial is top of the list of sinking substitutes, I believe, as it does involve coverage, just of a different sort. Beach burials have been popular around here, and I was impressed by the sand box of DIDVP fame - lady locked in box and slowly buried in "sand" like substance. An hourglass trap is another classic of these. These work for me because of the coverage idea... not quite as cool as being consumed by wet earth, of course, but a fair substitute.

Dry sand sinkage is great too. One can substitute anything dry and granular... grain being one of the more likely ones.

Wet cement is a cool visual too... whether it is poured on the victim, slowly burying her, or set up as a bottomless pit of wet cement for the victim to wander into, or be placed in, to sink into. (Although I'm sure there's something in the building codes against that... ;) ) Cement in this case would work like quicksand.

Sinking in pudding, syrup, honey, chocolate etc. would all fit into these categories as fair substitutes too. :)

I have to mention blob vore in this. Some think of it as "intelligent quicksand" in the sense it actively pursues its prey, yet consumes it as if it was sinking helplessly. Needless to say, I love it. :D

Anyway, that's my rather long winded two cents. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby quagmire_uk » Sat May 19, 2012 2:34 pm

I'm definately a fan of blob stuff. Though a turn-off is that sometimes stories or pictures mention stuff about dissolving or digestion or whatever... but yeah, a blob creature or slime or something can behave like true hollywood quicksand, actually sucking someone down. (Or up, or left or right, depending on the location of the blob/slime!)

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Postby msjy » Sun May 20, 2012 2:21 am

Something that I like to sink in would be like a rubber material such as alginate, ballistics gel in the liquid form then letting it harden soft enough to climb out of.
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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby Aiko » Sun May 20, 2012 6:18 am

PM2K wrote:Sinking in pudding, syrup, honey, chocolate etc. would all fit into these categories as fair substitutes too. :)


Mmm. Chocolate. You just inspired this short story.
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Postby dasandmann » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:38 am

all great ideas except 1
the cement thing i loved to untill i did some experementing
for one thing if you dont keep the cement moving its going to settle and trust me, it sucks trying to chisel your way out of waist deep solid cement, and i almost died from the vibrations of a jack hammer
another isif you poor it on here, depending on what type of concrete it is, it could immediatly crush her
lastly getting solidized concrete of your skin S-U-C-K-S SUCKS! my friend helped me and she was crying for days cause of how much skin had to be peeled off
we probably should have went to the hospital

another comment. any type of thick food substance would be a AWSOME thing to sink in!
ITS MY QUICKSAND!
AND I NEED IT NOW!
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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby dasandmann » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:39 am

all great ideas except 1
the cement thing i loved to untill i did some experementing
for one thing if you dont keep the cement moving its going to settle and trust me, it sucks trying to chisel your way out of waist deep solid cement, and i almost died from the vibrations of a jack hammer
another isif you poor it on here, depending on what type of concrete it is, it could immediatly crush her
lastly getting solidized concrete of your skin S-U-C-K-S SUCKS! my friend helped me and she was crying for days cause of how much skin had to be peeled off
we probably should have went to the hospital

another comment. any type of thick food substance would be a AWSOME thing to sink in!
ITS MY QUICKSAND!
AND I NEED IT NOW!
DEEP NOT SHALLOW!

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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby PM2K » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:55 pm

Dasandmann, thanks for pointing out the reality of cement. As I mentioned earlier, while I find cement as a concept a cool idea, much like tar pits, I know in real life it would be horrible, dangerous, damaging and likely lethal to actually try it.

Occasionally, in the past some members have mixed up fantasy with reality, wondering openly how one could do it, and I'm glad you have provided your example as a reason why not to give it a whirl...

Now, again, written in a story, depicted in art or animation or simulated, like in the Remo Williams movie scene, is all great. Just don't try it at home with real cement... ;)

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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby Mynock » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:04 pm

I think the biggest problem of playing in something edible isn't the cost but the disposal. I could fill a small pool with Jello for about $1200 but what do you do with a thousand gallons of jello when you're done playing in it? Hahaha......
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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby Boggy Man » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:42 am

To help discourage people from trying cement, just try googling "concrete cement burns", and look at the links, especially in the Images search! :shock: The scary thing about it is that the burn happens slowly, without pain, and can continue after the exposure has been stopped! :shock:
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Re: Sinking substitutes - burial and whatever....

Postby Mynock » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:24 pm

Many people don't realize that some of the ingredients have a high enough PH to cause serious burns. It's called "drying" but in reality it has very little to do with evaporation, there's some serious chemical reactions going on there.
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