USS Miami Preliminary JAGMAN Investigation findings

[kham]

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In good old days, someone needs to be on yardarm

[BSink42]

A vacuum cleaner takes out a nuclear powered navy vessel. Good grief.

[PM2K]

Like how the article leads with the "hey, it's okay! the reactor wasn't affected... before mentioning where the blaze actually was... I'm no naval expert, but I would think one would want to avoid having a fire anywhere near torpedoes...

[BSink42]

Like how the article leads with the "hey, it's okay! the reactor wasn't affected... before mentioning where the blaze actually was... I'm no naval expert, but I would think one would want to avoid having a fire anywhere near torpedoes...

Yeah, I'm not anywhere close to a naval expert myself, but having grown up in a military area, I know enough to know that if that fire had done damage to either location, that ship and that location where... Well, I think 'would not have been pretty' would have been a very very gross understatement.

[jagfiles]

I think they're going to need a bigger vacuum.

[jagfiles]

Also I'd think they'd want to avoid having a fire ANYWHERE on a vessel.

[Boggy Man]

Like how the article leads with the "hey, it's okay! the reactor wasn't affected... before mentioning where the blaze actually was... I'm no naval expert, but I would think one would want to avoid having a fire anywhere near torpedoes...

Fortunately, "there were no torpedoes or other weapons on-board the submarine" at that time.

[kham]

The level of media incompetence these days, I almost have pity for them. Almost

You start thinking on it too much, you'd want to grab them by the ankles and use them as a sledge-o-matic (think Hulk Smash). Worse, this is in a naval shipyard so the reporters there should not be blithering imbeciles. Miami is in drydock. So the reactor is cold, and everything is secured. Drydock again, so all weapons have been offloaded. This is stuff that the basics go back over a hundred years. What's surprising is they are talking repairs. (Mind you they arent finished investigating yet, and some of that stuff is way over Jag types' pay grades, movies aside) The fire burned for a very long time, and there was some concern over what that did to the hull. Since US Boats only have a single hull design, that is also the pressure hull. And there could have been serious degradation to its integrity. Still, you are looking at repairing or replacing the crew quarters, torpedo room, all the cable runs and electronics... not to mention sonar and all the little bits, the hull coating, etc etc etc

This is San Francisco -level damage, it just doesnt show as much on the outside

[PM2K]

Ah! Silly me.... should have counted on the expertise of those who know what they are doing...

[kham]

PM, until I see a report, just going from what was initially reported, this was caused by hot work. Eg, welding or grinding, by yard workers. Any sailor will tell you hot work is the single most common cause of shipboard fires, especially when a ship is in dock or laid up. This sort of accident is not new, you can go back all the way to the Normandie fire (gross incompetence on massive scale, including the USN, sorry boys) and likely others that predate the internet or record keeping.

If the boat had her full crew on board, this thing would have been put out almost at once - or never happened in the first place.