We have talked often about why we have the obsession that is this message board's theme though never drawing a sound conclusion. But I do not recall anyone discussing future possibilities as neural science progresses. I hypothesize that eventually science will understand the roots of fetish genesis, and that medicine will eventually find a way to treat and cure it.
The question remains: If such a so-called "cure" arose, would you take it?
Considering how much we obsess over the subject, skirt around outsiders in an effort to hide it, squander large sums of money (at times) on it, make or break relationships over it, etc., I wanted to start a thread about it. My own answer is, "No," though I imagine I could put all that energy toward more productive goals if I did. If it did become a major problem, then, yes, I would take the cure, especially if reversible.
There is the obvious worry about "do good" types who would medically force us into their narrow mold, but this question centers on voluntary cures, not involuntary ones.
Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
It may sound rather hubristic to quote from one of my own stories, but -
"Not having a fetish is so weird it probably counts as a fetish in itself."
Anyway, no. I rather like my fetishes. Quicksand isn't one of them, by the way.
"Not having a fetish is so weird it probably counts as a fetish in itself."
Anyway, no. I rather like my fetishes. Quicksand isn't one of them, by the way.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
i wouldn't, just because i think everyone has something that makes their heart beat a bit faster... if i didn't have my fetish, i'd just be into something else
oh, and ditto, quicksand isn't really my fetish either

oh, and ditto, quicksand isn't really my fetish either
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
I think it's a great question and it has caused me to think a bit. Not at all certain of the answer though. My fetish has dominated and altered my life in ways I think few of you could imagine or understand. However it is a burden which I am very good at dealing with. To be rid of it would be the greatest convenience and also a tragedy. In my mind it's like asking a blind musician if he would give up his musical gift for sight. I really don't know how to answer this. Again, great question.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
The word "cure" implies the existence of something pathological. For me, and in my view, an interest in quicksand is not pathological. In spite of the heavy involvement I have with Studio 588 and video production and all the rest, it does not dminate my life, interfere with everyday fuctions, etc. Such dominance or interference is pretty much the distinction between something pathological and something not. For me, therefore, a "cure" would not be that at all. It would simply be a change from what I am to something else. It would be in the category of becominig taller or left-handed.
So, for me the answer is "No." On the other han d, if something IS affecting one's enjoyment of life or dominating one to the point of exclusion of other desired things, then, for me, the meaning of the term "cure" begins to have a degree of meaning.
So, for me the answer is "No." On the other han d, if something IS affecting one's enjoyment of life or dominating one to the point of exclusion of other desired things, then, for me, the meaning of the term "cure" begins to have a degree of meaning.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
I agree with kibosan. I would definitely get rid of this fetish. The fact that it is so addicting bothers me and takes away from other aspects of my life although I manage very well. I keep reaching out to find the answer that would satisfy my quicksand fetish. Unless I experience in real life (which I have before both as sinker and rescuer), I can't get enough. I can go long periods without thinking about it, but once I do, it's hard to think about anything else. As long as I have the fetish though, I enjoy discussing and sharing stories.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
At one time, I would have said "Yes. I need to get rid of this quicksand thing. It makes me abnormal."
That is because despite the fact that every man on this forum wishes he had his very own "Quicksand Girl", the men on this forum are only a small fraction of men in the world, and most men would not find this desirable.
Basically, being with me means that no matter what you do, no matter how good you think you are or how hard you try, you will always be at least partially upstaged by nothing more than a simple mudpit. You would have to live with this amicably, or live elsewhere.
I'm now 52. I don't say what my life is like, but whatever it's like, I'm no longer interested in changing it. I'm not getting rid of anyone old. I am not adding anyone new. I'm not moving out of my house or changing my lifestyle or doing anything else to try to "fix" it now.
I'm just going to run out the rest of my able-bodied years like this.
I have been reflecting lately on how this fetish actually isn't so bad. Go sign up for Fetlife someday and poke around.
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I don't need beatings nor do I need to beat any one. I don't need heavy bondage or breath play. What I do never draws blood or leaves marks on my skin. I don't need pain, terror, real danger or actual peril and I don't fantasize about real death either. I don't need to terrorize or injure any other person (and I don't crush crickets, snails or lobsters for kicks either...yes, that is on there). What thrills and chills I experience are in the realm of tactile sensations only. I don't want a master. I don't want a slave. I don't need multiple partners, adoration, excessive attention, or to be used and abused. I don't need to go to play parties crammed with wild fetish people.
I don't need help at all with this. I just need the mudpit, and it doesn't care.
I've gone from a youthful "I am so abnormal...I wish I could just be like everyone else!" to a mature "Gee, that was close...when you think about what kind of fetishes and sexual kinks are really out there, and how stubborn they are once they get entrenched in you...I actually got off incredibly light."
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P.S. This thing does have its perks. Not only is a good sinking the most awesome feeling in the world, but in the process of exploring, I've seen Nature in ways that very few humans do. Today I watched trumpeter swans on the unfrozen areas of the marshes of Urbania, caught sight of two deer bounding into the forest, and got footage of a small sparrow eating seeds from a little dried plant.
That is because despite the fact that every man on this forum wishes he had his very own "Quicksand Girl", the men on this forum are only a small fraction of men in the world, and most men would not find this desirable.
Basically, being with me means that no matter what you do, no matter how good you think you are or how hard you try, you will always be at least partially upstaged by nothing more than a simple mudpit. You would have to live with this amicably, or live elsewhere.
I'm now 52. I don't say what my life is like, but whatever it's like, I'm no longer interested in changing it. I'm not getting rid of anyone old. I am not adding anyone new. I'm not moving out of my house or changing my lifestyle or doing anything else to try to "fix" it now.
I'm just going to run out the rest of my able-bodied years like this.
I have been reflecting lately on how this fetish actually isn't so bad. Go sign up for Fetlife someday and poke around.
Lordy.
I don't need beatings nor do I need to beat any one. I don't need heavy bondage or breath play. What I do never draws blood or leaves marks on my skin. I don't need pain, terror, real danger or actual peril and I don't fantasize about real death either. I don't need to terrorize or injure any other person (and I don't crush crickets, snails or lobsters for kicks either...yes, that is on there). What thrills and chills I experience are in the realm of tactile sensations only. I don't want a master. I don't want a slave. I don't need multiple partners, adoration, excessive attention, or to be used and abused. I don't need to go to play parties crammed with wild fetish people.
I don't need help at all with this. I just need the mudpit, and it doesn't care.
I've gone from a youthful "I am so abnormal...I wish I could just be like everyone else!" to a mature "Gee, that was close...when you think about what kind of fetishes and sexual kinks are really out there, and how stubborn they are once they get entrenched in you...I actually got off incredibly light."
Nessie
P.S. This thing does have its perks. Not only is a good sinking the most awesome feeling in the world, but in the process of exploring, I've seen Nature in ways that very few humans do. Today I watched trumpeter swans on the unfrozen areas of the marshes of Urbania, caught sight of two deer bounding into the forest, and got footage of a small sparrow eating seeds from a little dried plant.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
I always have to wonder about the idea of a pill that would "get rid of" impulses outside what society considers "normal". Would it be that easy? What would we lose taking that pill? Would we develop a new facet to replace what the pill removes, or would it leave a "void" in who we are that will never be filled with something else? Would I develop a "manly man" personality in response to losing my feminine facets? Or would I become a hollow shell of a man in the effort to remove the woman inside of me?
The other thing I worry about, especially as transgendered, bisexual, and freaky, is that very vocal minority that, upon hearing that this was on the market, would start agitating that "you know, we CAN cure it, let us do that so that everything's a lot simpler!"
6-7 years ago, I might have taken that pill. Heck, even now, I can see where it might make part of my life easier overall. But I can't stomach the idea that it might change me in ways less than positive in an attempt to make me fit the baseline... or worse, might severely damage me in the process of doing so. Not to mention that it would be giving in to those who insist on absolute conformity absolutely.
The other thing I worry about, especially as transgendered, bisexual, and freaky, is that very vocal minority that, upon hearing that this was on the market, would start agitating that "you know, we CAN cure it, let us do that so that everything's a lot simpler!"
6-7 years ago, I might have taken that pill. Heck, even now, I can see where it might make part of my life easier overall. But I can't stomach the idea that it might change me in ways less than positive in an attempt to make me fit the baseline... or worse, might severely damage me in the process of doing so. Not to mention that it would be giving in to those who insist on absolute conformity absolutely.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
I obviously have a heavy bias. I could also go on for paragraphs just replying to some of the comments and observations that have already been made.
But I do want to side with Fred and point out that the word 'Cure' has a built in bias. It's not a disease that we have, even though several institutions (church, counseling professions) would like us to think so (it's business for them).
I also don't think that the fetish itself is a habit. The sex part can be a habit, and can be quite addictive and controlling. I think a lot of the tinkering/creating/collecting that enhances the sex part is really a hobby for a lot of folks, albeit usually a secret one.
Folks here need to understand the difference between obsession and compulsion. If you don't know the difference, learn about it.
So, my answer is no. Mostly because I see a non-obsessed non-passionate life as boring. Having said that, I wouldn't give up my marriage over it though. Some passions serve a higher purpose than others. And is my passion bad because it links directly to sex? I don't think so. I could be just as passionate about model airplanes or whatever. Having a weird passion is far better than no passion at all. I think that's really the point - and has come up several time already in this soon-to-be-long thread. What would we replace it with?
All of this reminds me of that poem or lyric that I think nachtjaeger posted about the crazy guy that preferred to be crazy rather than sane.
But I do want to side with Fred and point out that the word 'Cure' has a built in bias. It's not a disease that we have, even though several institutions (church, counseling professions) would like us to think so (it's business for them).
I also don't think that the fetish itself is a habit. The sex part can be a habit, and can be quite addictive and controlling. I think a lot of the tinkering/creating/collecting that enhances the sex part is really a hobby for a lot of folks, albeit usually a secret one.
Folks here need to understand the difference between obsession and compulsion. If you don't know the difference, learn about it.
So, my answer is no. Mostly because I see a non-obsessed non-passionate life as boring. Having said that, I wouldn't give up my marriage over it though. Some passions serve a higher purpose than others. And is my passion bad because it links directly to sex? I don't think so. I could be just as passionate about model airplanes or whatever. Having a weird passion is far better than no passion at all. I think that's really the point - and has come up several time already in this soon-to-be-long thread. What would we replace it with?
All of this reminds me of that poem or lyric that I think nachtjaeger posted about the crazy guy that preferred to be crazy rather than sane.
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Re: Would You Take a "Fetish Cure" If It Existed?
QuicksandMania wrote:There is the obvious worry about "do good" types who would medically force us into their narrow mold, but this question centers on voluntary cures, not involuntary ones.
If I recall correctly, I believe a person has the right to refuse medical treatment if they do not want it (not sure for other parts of the world though), there would definitely be a lot of peer pressure to be "normal". However, when you think about it, the norms of society are determined by society. If you were to wake up tomorrow and suddenly every other person in the world had a quicksand fetish then it would be considered 'normal'. I've heard of self-help groups that are supposed to 'treat' fetishes, something along the lines of the groups which deal with anger management. I never actually attended one, but apparently it's basically just a therapy group to help people control and suppress these 'urges' until they are no longer aroused by them or something. I don't actually think it would work, but it's possible.
However, I'm glad that I have a fetish, something that helps me set myself apart from the normality of society, something I enjoy, kind of like being part of an exclusive little club of people who all share the same interests. But even in the 'normal' society, fetishes exist, no one really notices them though. I mean, take men for example, some men like big butts (and they can't lie) some like big breasts, others have mundane preferences that do arouse them, what they don't realize is that those preferences are themselves fetishes. They're just so common that no one actually acknowledges them as a sexual fetish.
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