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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Duncan Edwards » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:15 pm

kham wrote:Performing an Order-66 -type purge would be fairly simple, I've seen other forums do it yearly; generally they get referred to as The Zero Post Purge. Sufficient notification is given, and sufficient time for actual living humans to prove they are indeed still alive. But, then, in nice Dalek-ian fashion, the zeros are exterminated.

Because lets face the facts; too many gimmees just want free shit and can't be bothered to even say thanks, never mind purchase anything


That's okay because this board was created with the notion that not everybody has something to say. I just don't get why someone would gripe about "problems" and then never speak up in public or try to do anything to resolve what they don't care for. Then they want to blame the folks who do take an active role in what's going on. Don't get that at all.

If you're going to be silent then don't expect to be heard. Seems kind of obvious to me.
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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Nessie » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:27 pm

Duncan Edwards wrote:I've been party to some recent offline discussion with a few claiming to be disaffected QSF members who say they don't like the way QSF is "dominated" by video producers. Since they set it up and maintain it I think I can understand why the producers might feel a bit entitled to maintain a producer-centric board.


I'm reminded a bit of the Good Old Days when I opened and maintained a Yahoo group.

Yes, this place is dominated by producers, just as my group was dominated by me, but does anybody besides me remember how many quicksand groups on Yahoo were opened up and then suddenly, were great wastelands of no activity whatsoever?

That is because when you open a thing, other people do not show up in droves to throw quicksand material at you. You are, your own self, responsible for the care and feeding of your group/forum/whatever.

That's what the producers do here. They are the driving force that provides material and maintains the forum.

Therefore, I echo your sentiments. Disaffected members are free to go other places -- if they can find them.

They are free to open up something of their own and run it any way they want. But are they up to the care and maintenance? They're going to have to show up now and then with their own ideas/creations/conversation-starters. And the fact that most people are not up to that even when they start with the best of intentions is exactly what created all those quiet quicksand groups of years gone by.

Or they could (news flash!) just come here, and utilize the non-producer forums. It seems to me that the arts and stories sections are actually pretty healthy.

In any given group/forum/whatever, even when it is successful, there is a core of active members and a sea of lurkers. That is just how it is. I am glad that we are run by producers because I am sure some of the lurkers are supporting us.

I have noticed a general quieting-down of participation in recent years -- mostly in general discussion. I think that this is to be expected as my generation ages out and the next generation comes in. When I first entered the community (in 2000), the Internet was new and the very idea that someone might actually share my fetish was a shock to my system -- a pleasant shock, but a shock nonetheless. But people are now growing up with the idea that the Internet has everything and will provide anything they desire -- and, hopefully, for free.

I am sure that we have many new arrivals here who went to Google deliberately to find us, and just as expected, we were here, so here they are...and it's not a big enough deal for them to mention it.

I wouldn't be surprised if some alien lands on Earth, listens in on some conversations and finds out that no matter what it is that we wonder about, we ask Google...and Google always provides it. Therefore, Google is our God.

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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Mynock » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:55 pm

Weird attitude to say the least. The forum is dominated buy people who shower us with free stuff on a regular basis......and you're bitching about it? :lol: Would you prefer a forum dominated by people who just sat around complaining about how the free lunch didn't include Lobster?
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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Viridian » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:33 am

Apart from promoting their products in their forums, I actually don't see much activity from video producers elsewhere, let alone being "dominating". Practically all non-video submissions are from non-video producers.
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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby mudmanic2012 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:50 am

NO complaints from me. I thought I'd fall out of my chair,when, in 2006 I typed in the word "quicksand" and up popped The Quicksand Page, Deep Sinking and Why Women in Quicksand. Now there is this site which is by far the best thing since sliced bread!

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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Fred588 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:45 am

Is it possible that whomever this person is complaining that producers "dominate" things that he/she really is saying something else than what we hear? When people are failing to communicate its usually because they can't communicate.
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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Duncan Edwards » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:28 am

Fred588 wrote:Is it possible that whomever this person is complaining that producers "dominate" things that he/she really is saying something else than what we hear? When people are failing to communicate its usually because they can't communicate.


It's a group of people who appear to face exactly that problem. I've conversed with four who appear to have difficulty framing their objections and defining their response. Just to be real up front about it, given the levels of paranoia and generally childish behavior, most of them appear to be living in their parent's basement and partaking of illicit substances all day. My real purpose in beginning this thread was the hope that they would speak up so we could understand them better and they might understand why certain aspects of their behavior are not really in keeping with their stated problems. I received one response last night that claimed I was trying to ferret them out here at QSF. So? What are we going to do? Hunt them down? I don't get it. I guess at this point I am bashing on them a bit but I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone else shared the feeling.
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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby dlodoski » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:43 am

Duncan Edwards wrote:
Fred588 wrote:Is it possible that whomever this person is complaining that producers "dominate" things that he/she really is saying something else than what we hear? When people are failing to communicate its usually because they can't communicate.

It's a group of people who appear to face exactly that problem. I've conversed with four who appear to have difficulty framing their objections and defining their response. Just to be real up front about it, given the levels of paranoia and generally childish behavior, most of them appear to be living in their parent's basement and partaking of illicit substances all day. My real purpose in beginning this thread was the hope that they would speak up so we could understand them better and they might understand why certain aspects of their behavior are not really in keeping with their stated problems. I received one response last night that claimed I was trying to ferret them out here at QSF. So? What are we going to do? Hunt them down? I don't get it. I guess at this point I am bashing on them a bit but I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone else shared the feeling.

I rather saw it as a straight-forward de-bunking exercise.

Myths of the Quicksand Community #1. The producers dominate everything.

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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby Duncan Edwards » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:50 am

dlodoski wrote:
Duncan Edwards wrote:
Fred588 wrote:Is it possible that whomever this person is complaining that producers "dominate" things that he/she really is saying something else than what we hear? When people are failing to communicate its usually because they can't communicate.

It's a group of people who appear to face exactly that problem. I've conversed with four who appear to have difficulty framing their objections and defining their response. Just to be real up front about it, given the levels of paranoia and generally childish behavior, most of them appear to be living in their parent's basement and partaking of illicit substances all day. My real purpose in beginning this thread was the hope that they would speak up so we could understand them better and they might understand why certain aspects of their behavior are not really in keeping with their stated problems. I received one response last night that claimed I was trying to ferret them out here at QSF. So? What are we going to do? Hunt them down? I don't get it. I guess at this point I am bashing on them a bit but I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone else shared the feeling.

I rather saw it as a straight-forward de-bunking exercise.

Myths of the Quicksand Community #1. The producers dominate everything.

Done.


Were you aware that the producers here teamed up to get the Swedish cops to raid Pirate Bay? :lol: :roll: :lol:
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Re: Minor Rant Questions about QSF

Postby dlodoski » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:55 am

Duncan Edwards wrote:
dlodoski wrote:....I rather saw it as a straight-forward de-bunking exercise.

Myths of the Quicksand Community #1. The producers dominate everything.

Done.


Were you aware that the producers here teamed up to get the Swedish cops to raid Pirate Bay? :lol: :roll: :lol:

Ah, Sweden.

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