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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby schlamm » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:14 am

Bittersweet, that is.....
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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby YerK » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:41 pm

I visited the museum that was the Lexington in Corpus Christi, TX. A ship cannot survive without a crew. Unless there are people dedicated to maintenance of a ship, you cannot keep up with the rust. Ocean water is unforgiving, and will eat steel that is unprotected.

I actually wish I had that business. It is rather vulture-like, but while chopping a ship to pieces for scrap is maybe not ideal, I cannot really think of a better end for a warship. Museums are not well funded, so it becomes a death of slow rot. Anything else that I can think of involves sinking, which is pretty much something that all ships save for submarines are best to avoid. ;-)

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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby Fred588 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:17 pm

I can think of no better fate for a military ship than to become scrap metal, except perhaps to become that without firing a shot in anger. It means it was successful in the greatest possible sense.
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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby Duncan Edwards » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:56 pm

My dad spent 16 years in the USN. Most of that was on carriers. His career was spent on Lexington class carriers like Intrepid and he always claimed he was afraid to board a super carrier for fear he'd get lost. You would have to clean these things up before you could sink them to make reefs and the cost for that alone is prohibitive. Ken is right about the silence regarding what is required to sink them. It ain't a starship but it's pretty neat in there even for their age. No need to expand on that knowledge base. The Navy would like to stay with the idea that they are simply unsinkable. It would be an all day job for sure.

Beyond all the technical stuff these vessels were a bulwark in the defense of western civilization for a quarter of our nation's existence. That's a lot to let go of.
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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby nachtjaeger » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:55 pm

Aye, tear her tattered ensign down-
long has it waved on high,
And many an eye has danced to see
That banner in the sky;
Beneath it rung the battle shout,
And burst the cannon's roar;--
The meteor of the ocean air
Shall sweep the clouds no more.

Her deck, once red with heroes' blood,
Where knelt the vanquished foe,
When winds were hurrying o'er the flood,
And waves were white below,
No more shall feel the victor's tread,
Or know the conquered knee;--
The harpies of the shore shall pluck
The eagle of the sea!

Oh, better that her shattered hulk
Should sink beneath the wave;
Her thunders shook the mighty deep,
And there should be her grave;
Nail to the mast her holy flag,
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!'


-"Old Ironsides", by Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr., September 16th 1830

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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby kham » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:29 pm

78 is Ford, the class ship; 79 is Kennedy, again (a wasted name if you ask me, they should have gone back to REAL carrier names, like Saratoga, or Lexington) and 80?.... have to check but the push for 80 was the Big-E. It just not the same without the Enterprise in the fleet....


AND as far as warships go?

I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way.

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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby Mynock » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:52 pm

This will make you happy. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-80)

On 1 December 2012, during the presentation of a pre-recorded speech at the inactivation ceremony for USS Enterprise, U.S. Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus announced that CVN-80 would be named Enterprise.[4] She will be the ninth ship and the third aircraft carrier in the history of the United States Navy to bear the name.[3] CVN-80 will also be the first U.S. aircraft carrier since America was commissioned in 1966 not to be named in honor of a person.
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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby kham » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:06 pm

:D

Maybe it'll catch on, and bring back the names that really should be CVN's .... America, Constellation, Saratoga, Yorktown, Lexington.....

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Re: Breakers Yard

Postby Mynock » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:10 pm

Looked up the America out of curiosity--16,000 feet? Holy crap. Might as well have scrapped it.
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