Found: The Musashi

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Re: Found: The Musashi

Postby YerK » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:17 pm

nachtjaeger wrote:The local air museum has one of the actual model carriers used for the film "Tora! Tora! Tora!". At (I think) 25mm scale, the Akagi is 32 feet long.

If you're a warplane geek, it's definitely worth a stop if you're in the Albany/Saratoga area.

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Re: Found: The Musashi

Postby kham » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:54 pm

Live streaming tour of wreck site tonight at 9pm EDST

https://twitter.com/PaulGAllen has info on how

http://www.paulallen.com/news/press-rel ... edia-alert more information here on how to access

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Re: Found: The Musashi

Postby kham » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:14 pm

Looking at the side-scan sonar imagery, as well as the ROV footage, you are talking about total destruction; a degree of fragmentation that is even WORSE than Yamato. Bow and Stern are not too far apart, but pointing in different directions; remainder of ship is utterly obliterated, only larger structures such as turrets and barbettes, heavy machinery and hull sections as anything identifiable. Possibly a combination of ammo exploding and implosion , but just complete destruction. Any hope that she would have been in a better condition than Yamato is over. It appears that the superstructure, or part of it, has been completely sheared off with the stack and compass platform, bridge attached and laying on its port side, starboard side up.

Debris field spans 880m long by over 500m wide
Their historical analysis guys need more work :) They incorrectly identifying some turrets; eg 12.7cm DP as 15.5cm secondaries...the location alone should have clued them in...
David Mearns apparently on site and looking, thats worse :) He was on the Hood and Bismarck sites, so he should goddamned know better :P

They looking at armour chunks that way thicker than would be by superstructure areas, like bits of belt? Which means she basically has been turned inside out. Devastation

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Re: Found: The Musashi

Postby DangerGirl » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:04 am

So what you're basically saying is that the Yamato and Musashi were the Pintos of the seas.

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Re: Found: The Musashi

Postby kham » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:32 am

:D

Mearns suggested that both magazines exploded, which considering the state of the wreck and debris field is possible. Before this, people were suggesting that she would be in better condition, that they had had time to secure her magazines, etc. But they sure both did blow up spectacularly :twisted: The degree of damage obviously could be a factor, but they both were 50% larger than their closest -sized opponent. 46cm shells were seen scattered in the debris, so there is certainly no dispute that the shell magazines were blown apart. if I had to make a wild assed-guess? That Japanese penchant for creating 'odd' (aka, Imbecilic, Retarded...) ideas for some things, like San-Shiki shell - trying to make the main batteries into 46cm shotguns, essentially :roll: Never worked, never had a prayer of ever working. But they sure were somewhat unstable compared to normal ordnance. And they both had them in batch lots

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Re: Found: The Musashi

Postby Mynock » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:02 pm

Yup......stepped on beer can haha. Pretty much anything that didn't explode during the battle imploded when it sank. Ouch. Could they have deliberately exploded the magazines to scuttle it?
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